Here we go again..

[Vachon23]

As much as I’m Q defender, it was just not a good year

 

[OldCraig71]

God, I wish the influence of stupid people like this wouldn't contaminate the CH, alas here we are.

I swear to God if McDavid was our number one center there would be media members in Quebec that would be in favor of a trade sending him to Winnipeg for Pierre Luc Dubois.

 

[Garbageyuk]

This is absolutely bonkers lmao. How could he be a 1? He's gonna learn to skate, defend, handle the puck, pass the puck, shoot the puck, and read the play? The only thing is he's 6'7 and isn't a complete non athlete.

Yeah it's so "absolutely bonkers" that he got drafted in the 1st round.

If he has no shot to be a #1, why did he get picked in the 1st round smart guy? You obviously know much better than me (and the Coyotes scouting staff).

You and I have already been through this exact discussion, like twice. We don't agree. Stop responding to my posts on this subject if you don't like my views. You have nothing new to say.

 

[themilosh]

Neither was Keith, Weber, Chara, Josi, Carlson, Byfuglien, Letang, Parayko, Slavin, etc. when they were that age. Defenseman development curves are hard to project. I’d take Lamoureux with his combination of tools and attributes over a guy like Mesar, whose upside is likely a small 2nd liner if everything goes well. I think Lamoureux has a good chance to be a top-4 in the NHL, and could be a #1 someday.

Agreed, id rather strike out w/ Lamoureux than Mesar. Unless the only reason to draft him was to give Slaf his Robin, in which case Im fine with him. No more 5'10" soff wingers.

 

[Naslundforever]

Agreed, id rather strike out w/ Lamoureux than Mesar. Unless the only reason to draft him was to give Slaf his Robin, in which case Im fine with him. No more 5'10" soff wingers.

Haha I like the Batman analogy. Mesar looks like he can play on the boards against bigger guys though from the few clips we saw today (yesterday?).

 

[abo9]

Neither was Keith, Weber, Chara, Josi, Carlson, Byfuglien, Letang, Parayko, Slavin, etc. when they were that age. Defenseman development curves are hard to project. I’d take Lamoureux with his combination of tools and attributes over a guy like Mesar, whose upside is likely a small 2nd liner if everything goes well. I think Lamoureux has a good chance to be a top-4 in the NHL, and could be a #1 someday.

But like, that's because you prefer Lamoureux as a player, not because he's from QC.

It'd be super dumb to pick players because they're from QC as a main reason. If everything else is equal, as a last differentiator? Maybe, but there's a ton of other attributes to look at first

 

[Habs]

I swear to God if McDavid was our number one center there would be media members in Quebec that would be in favor of a trade sending him to Winnipeg for Pierre Luc Dubois.

there would be a TON of people, including media who would want this. Sad, but true

 

[teamfirst]

there would be a TON of people, including media who would want this. Sad, but true

Wow, do you really believe that, you guy's making a big fuss about one silly article beceause you like to bitch about anything pro-francophone that's all.....makes you feel better

 

[Habs]

Wow, do you really believe that, you guy's making a big fuss about one silly article beceause you like to bitch about anything pro-francophone that's all.....makes you feel better

yup.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Yeah it's so "absolutely bonkers" that he got drafted in the 1st round.

If he has no shot to be a #1, why did he get picked in the 1st round smart guy? You obviously know much better than me (and the Coyotes scouting staff).

You and I have already been through this exact discussion, like twice. We don't agree. Stop responding to my posts on this subject if you don't like my views. You have nothing new to say.

Do you think every player drafted in the late 1st round has the ability to be a #1 anything? If any team in the world thought he had #1 upside, he would have gone in the top 10.

The Coyotes had ten thousand draft picks and decided to take on a project that's 6'7". Just like we decided to take on the Tinordi project. Just like Dallas took on the Oleksiak project. Like all the teams have taken on the giant defenseman project hoping to find the next Chara and have failed miserably.

 

[Kimota]

Drafting no QC boys in the 4 rounds is terrible for sure in Montreal to booth.

Concerning the journalists, I don't mind that much cause you have to have guys fighting for the sort of thing so it doesn't fall into oblivion.

Now that said though, it's essentialy the first draft of the new regime and the well of Quebec guys was thin this year. Call me back in three years if it's a common thing.

 

[beowulf]

Ohh gawd this stupid complaint yet again by the media, aka French media. This is why Quebec is a messed up province that will continue to have so many issues in the business world. This forcing of French on everyone hurts not only the Habs but all aspects of business life. Big multinationals have no interested in being forced to speak French and work in French, especially in domains that the work language is English.

 

[expy]

Drafting no QC boys in the 4 rounds is terrible for sure in Montreal to booth.

Why does it matter where the draft is held? You shouldn't draft "QC boys" just because you're drafting in Montreal.

Remember Louis Leblanc? Media must be super happy.

 

[Kimota]

Why does it matter where the draft is held? You shouldn't draft "QC boys" just because you're drafting in Montreal.

Remember Louis Leblanc? Media must be super happy.

It's still a weird look.

 

[expy]

It's still a weird look.

Why?

You don't draft professionally based on place of birth, you draft based off competence in said profession.

 

[HostileCapSpace]

Wow, do you really believe that, you guy's making a big fuss about one silly article beceause you like to bitch about anything pro-francophone that's all.....makes you feel better

As much as I find people who want every single Quebec-born players available to be targetted by the Habs ridiculous, I find quite disturbing those on the opposite spectrum who get clearly upset every time there's a mention of a francophone player coming to Montreal. There's clearly some underlying issues there. And yes, there are people that fall into that category.

 

[tnq]

Yes you have Rocket Laval with alot of players from chez nous

 

[Kriss E]

Yeah it's so "absolutely bonkers" that he got drafted in the 1st round.

If he has no shot to be a #1, why did he get picked in the 1st round smart guy? You obviously know much better than me (and the Coyotes scouting staff).

You and I have already been through this exact discussion, like twice. We don't agree. Stop responding to my posts on this subject if you don't like my views. You have nothing new to say.

Just a FYI, being selected in the first round does not mean you have the potential of becoming a top line/pair player.
Just in terms of simply making the NHL, your odds of becoming a regular, let alone a 1st, is much lower when selected in late 1st vs early.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

The Pure Laine Zealots will mass exodus once Bettman brings the Nordiques over.

At first glance, i thought "what the hell does Patrick Laine have to do with the Nordiques?"

And then, "oh, ok, pure laine, in French"

Be kind, I just woke up

I swear to God if McDavid was our number one center there would be media members in Quebec that would be in favor of a trade sending him to Winnipeg for Pierre Luc Dubois.

Or Huberdeau

 

[beowulf]

Yes you have Rocket Laval with alot of players from chez nous

And Trois-Rivières who most of last season had Québecois players only with a couple of others here and there.

 

[Kriss E]

I’m not a big fan of appeasing these political figures that like to stir things up over the lack of local players (French) on the team, but even though I’m not from Quebec myself I think we need to do better at this. Whether we like it or not, people in Quebec do care about this. It’s not like we’re striking it up with the selections we’re making now. The fact we are terrible at finding players in our own backyard is not a good look. We should have the edge here, but we don’t even try.

I don't think most of bring this up are political figures, a lot of them are just local press, but I share your opinion, I'm not a fan of appeasing them either. The only focus should be to build a contending team.
That said, when we look at our drafting history, especially in the last decade or so, the lack of selection from our own turf is a head scratcher.

The english vs french debate has polorized opinions but if we took a step back and I simply asked ''do you think it's an advantage for a team to have a draft eligible league on their home turf?''..pretty sure every one would agree it is...and yet...we have nothing to show for it.
To make it worse, we are one of the richest teams in the league, so monatery limitations are not an excuse for us.

As we both brought up, if we were doing well drafting elsewhere then this likely doesn't even get brought up. Considering we are mediocre at best, it becomes a point of discussion.

 

[BLONG7]

As much as I find people who want every single Quebec-born players available to be targetted by the Habs ridiculous, I find quite disturbing those on the opposite spectrum who get clearly upset every time there's a mention of a francophone player coming to Montreal. There's clearly some underlying issues there. And yes, there are people that fall into that category.

People don't get upset by it, all anyone wants is the RIGHT player................english or french..........
As an organization, we never seem to be in the RIGHT spot, to get the RIGHT kid from the Q.

 

[Whitesnake]

Agreed, id rather strike out w/ Lamoureux than Mesar. Unless the only reason to draft him was to give Slaf his Robin, in which case Im fine with him. No more 5'10" soff wingers.

But when you draft in the 1st round, you don't draft with the ''I rather strike out'' mentality. You draft with the ''I rather take a chance on a skilled player'' mentality.

And again, going full needs is dumb. If you have too many small wingers, you could trade them if they are talented enough. Pretty sure Gaudreau was tradeable. Pretty sure Caufield is tradeable. Pretty sure etc.

 

[themilosh]

But when you draft in the 1st round, you don't draft with the ''I rather strike out'' mentality. You draft with the ''I rather take a chance on a skilled player'' mentality.

And again, going full needs is dumb. If you have too many small wingers, you could trade them if they are talented enough. Pretty sure Gaudreau was tradeable. Pretty sure Caufield is tradeable. Pretty sure etc.

Fair enough.. but soff small wingers are much easier to find than hulking defenders.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Fair enough.. but soff small wingers are much easier to find than hulking defenders.

That's because all the hulking defenders suck