Player Discussion Henrik Lundqvist

[Bluto]

1 bad game and lundqvist now may as well be Martin biron. These boards sometimes.

 

[Nopuckluck]

Deflections are near impossible to save but that's why, in my opinion, goalies just aren't worth anything north of 10% of the salary cup upon signing. The extra money just isn't worth it.

I watched Greiss make many deflection saves tonight

 

[mrmovies779]

I don’t think Lundqvist is a first ballot shoe in

Yes he absolutely is.

 

[FireGerardGallant]

I don’t think Lundqvist is a first ballot shoe in.
Henrik Lundqvist’s carrier is most closely comparable to Rogie Vachon.
I believe it took Vachon 16 years after he retired to get inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame and was on a Montreal team early in his career that won the Stanley Cup.

Henrik is probably the greatest goalie of his generation, not being first ballot is a joke

 

[stan the caddy]

Lundqvist is the best goalie since the Hasek/Brodeur/Roy days. Did it without playing for great teams too. Hasek is easily better imo but when you factor in surrounding talent I really think he can hang with the other two. Long and consistent career.

He's older now and he's got a really young team in front of him. Not the greatest combination. I really do wish he was playing for a contender right now.

 

[Kaapo Takko]

I watched Greiss make many deflection saves tonight

Looking at deflections saves based on a one game sample is very flawed, It's by far the type of shot with the highest variance.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Hank has his first bad game of the season and this thread blows up. Unbelievable. Vasilevsky, Holtby, Gibson, or whomever you feel is an "elite" goalie right now each have already had multiple shit the bed type games, Hank has one bad one, not even that bad and people start saying he's not a HoFer.

 

[Irishguy42]

He didn't even have that bad of a game

 

[Rangerfan4life90]

Hank has his first bad game of the season and this thread blows up. Unbelievable. Vasilevsky, Holtby, Gibson, or whomever you feel is an "elite" goalie right now each have already had multiple **** the bed type games, Hank has one bad one, not even that bad and people start saying he's not a HoFer.

The nature of some sports fans, unfortunately.

 

[The S5]

Henrik is probably the greatest goalie of his generation, not being first ballot is a joke

He and Luongo, maybe make an argument for Fluery based on playoff success.
Hank and Lu have been the most consistent, but not necessarily the best in any given season.

 

[NYRFANMANI]

If we make the POs Hank should get the Hart and the Vezina.

edit: ok, his number took a big hit over the past 2 weeks, nonetheless I don't think anyone can really critique Hank this season so far, he's been magnificent, considering what he has to work with.

 

[nevesis]

Hank has his first bad game of the season and this thread blows up. Unbelievable. Vasilevsky, Holtby, Gibson, or whomever you feel is an "elite" goalie right now each have already had multiple **** the bed type games, Hank has one bad one, not even that bad and people start saying he's not a HoFer.

I’d love to know how 4 deflected goals in front of the net equal a goaltender having a bad game?

 

[offdacrossbar]

hank wasnt his stellar best last night.

hes been rock solid all season so far.

2.76 .915 on this squad ?? pretty darn good

 

[Clark Kellogg]

Henrik is probably the greatest goalie of his generation, not being first ballot is a joke

Rogie Vachon was also one of the greatest goalies of his generation; just like Hank he didn’t have a championship team (LA Kings) playing in front of him.
Rogie use to say to his teammates “just get 3 and we’ll win” unfortunately the Kings would struggle to achieve that.

 

[FireGerardGallant]

Rogie Vachon was also one of the greatest goalies of his generation; just like Hank he didn’t have a championship team (LA Kings) playing in front of him.
Rogie use to say to his teammates “just get 3 and we’ll win” unfortunately the Kings would struggle to achieve that.

And Hank still has the much better resume. Already has over 100 more wins then Rogie
Has made a first allstar unlike Rogie and more Allstar apperances. Also pretty sure Rogie never made a cup final, which Hank has done. Hank may be the most consistent goalie ever. Anything less then first ballot would be an embarrassment from the hof committee

 

[Clark Kellogg]

And Hank still has the much better resume. Already has over 100 more wins then Rogie
Has made a first allstar unlike Rogie and more Allstar apperances. Also pretty sure Rogie never made a cup final, which Hank has done. Hank may be the most consistent goalie ever. Anything less then first ballot would be an embarrassment from the hof committee

1969 Montreal Canadiens. Started and won all four games.

 

[FireGerardGallant]

1969 Montreal Canadiens. Started and won all four games.

Then whats ur point about cups with Hank If it took the great roggie vachon 16 years despite having a cup

 

[CasusBelli]

1 bad game and lundqvist now may as well be Martin biron. These boards sometimes.

The goals weren’t even his fault. How do you stop redirected pucks you can’t even see? The defense in front of the net was atrocious; some turnovers in our own zone were ghastly. And, yes, the reffing didn’t help either — but poor / missed calls are, unfortunately, part of the sport.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I’d love to know how 4 deflected goals in front of the net equal a goaltender having a bad game?

There's a difference between having a bad game, and not having a good game. Lundqvist didn't have a good game. I don't understand how anyone can say otherwise.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

Then whats ur point about cups with Hank If it took the great roggie vachon 16 years despite having a cup

I believe you should reread my posts.
I never said anything about Henrik not winning a cup or that hurting his chances about being a first ballot Hall of Famer. I just pointed out Rogie Vachon’s carrier is very similar to Lundqvist’s and he was not voted in on his first year of eligibility.

 

[BroadwayStorm]

Henrik is a first ballot hall of famer and the best goalie of his generation.

Henrik had a so so game.

We should trade Henrik while we still can to Toronto for Nylander and something else. He's not winning the cup with us and deserves one.

 

[Harbour Dog]

Henrik is a first ballot hall of famer and the best goalie of his generation.

Henrik had a so so game.

We should trade Henrik while we still can to Toronto for Nylander and something else. He's not winning the cup with us and deserves one.

If Hank puts on a Leafs jersey, the cognitive dissonance will give me a seizure.

 

[Ori]

Yes they talked to Henrik about his future and probably after the new direction last season since he have NMC, but Florida acquired Nucks old elite goalie @Harbour Dog in Roberto Luongo so never say never.

I`m waiting for the last period Buffalo vs Jets fun game so far, but not many goals.

PP goal, Jeff Skinner what a signing by Buffalo!

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

Given the other players of his era and peak years, why would Rogie have been a first ballot HOFer?

 

[Clark Kellogg]

Given the other players of his era and peak years, why would Rogie have been a first ballot HOFer?

He wouldn’t and wasn’t, hence my point.