Confirmed with Link: Hayes traded to Pittsburgh

[AjaxManifesto]

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/report-blues-sending-kevin-hayes-to-penguins/

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[MissouriMook]

Essentially we sold a 2nd round pick in next year’s draft for the $5,250,000 we don’t have to pay Hayes. Don’t like it, but it’s not my money.

 

[LetsGoBooze]

Worst trade since the Oshie return. Glad we're in asset accumulation mode.

 

[Em etah Eh]

How much would a buyout cost? This seems like a waste of assets in a window we aren’t even close to contending in.

 

[LogosBlue]

Not thrilled about giving up a 2025 2nd for a salary dump.

 

[Eldon Reid]

How much would a buyout cost? This seems like a waste of assets in a window we aren’t even close to contending in.

Buyout would be the following:

2.24 mil
2.24 mil
667k
667K

Philly would be charge the same since they are retenting 50%.

 

[Mike Liut]

In reality, if you sign a player in FA by using the money you saved on Hayes, it really didn’t cost you a 2nd. It’s like trading that 2nd for the FA player.

 

[ChicagoBlues]

In reality, if you sign a player in FA by using the money you saved on Hayes, it really didn’t cost you a 2nd. It’s like trading that 2nd for the FA player.

hhhmmmmmmmm.......kinda head scratchy, but if I beat my head against the wall, it sounds pretty good.

 

[Mike Liut]

hhhmmmmmmmm.......kinda head scratchy, but if I beat my head against the wall, it sounds pretty good.

It took 3 margaritas to come up with that

 

[Xerloris]

IMO I think this means Doug is going after a FA center, maybe Monohan like so many of us suggested? 2nd line center.

 

[MissouriMook]

IMO I think this means Doug is going after a FA center, maybe Monohan like so many of us suggested? 2nd line center.

We didn’t need to clear cap space just to sign one FA. We had almost $10 million in cap space to do that. Either DA is preparing to make a big splash and bring in more than one high end addition, or it’s just him holding his nose and paying an unfortunate price to undo a previous mistake as he described it post-draft.

 

[GoldenSeal]

Army is on a roll.

He wouldn't be doing this if he didn't have something lined up. He wouldn't spend a 2nd to clear cash up if he didn't. I feel like we're about to come up bigtime.

 

[tfriede2]

If it’s not for cap space, then it’s a move to save actual dollars, and that’s not a hockey trade; instead, it’s indicative that DA is operating under a budget set by ownership

 

[STL fan in MN]

Essentially we sold a 2nd round pick in next year’s draft for the $5,250,000 we don’t have to pay Hayes. Don’t like it, but it’s not my money.

But then also replacing Hayes with another player…that won’t be playing for free. So it really didn’t save that much.

 

[Eldon Reid]

I also wonder if they thought Dvorsky wasn't going to be ready this year and that's why they brought in Hayes with his 3 years, and then they could trade him with a year left on contract when Dvorsky was ready. But Dvorsky progressed further than they thought so Hayes was expendable then.

Personally not a huge fan of paying 2nd to get rid of him, but it is what it is.

 

[TheDizee]

Essentially we sold a 2nd round pick in next year’s draft for the $5,250,000 we don’t have to pay Hayes. Don’t like it, but it’s not my money.

Who was the GM who agreed to take on that cap hit last year then decided that he stunk and it was worth a 2nd round pick to relieve him of that cap hit?

FIRE ARMSTRONG.

 

[Stupendous Yappi]

We didn’t need to clear cap space just to sign one FA. We had almost $10 million in cap space to do that. Either DA is preparing to make a big splash and bring in more than one high end addition, or it’s just him holding his nose and paying an unfortunate price to undo a previous mistake as he described it post-draft.

Maybe Hayes in the pressbox was still viewed as a negative. I didn’t think his play was bad enough to not find a bottom 6 role. Seems like they wanted him gone?

Is there some sentiment that Hayes would teach bad habits to young players? Armstrong didn’t say anything negative about him, which is a professional way to discuss it. But when he says “it didn’t work out” I wonder in what way specifically.

Dizee, I can’t take it any more. I’m putting you on block. Please don’t start any important threads. (I know, oxymoron.)

 

[TheDizee]

Maybe Hayes in the pressbox was still viewed as a negative. I didn’t think his play was bad enough to not find a bottom 6 role. Seems like they wanted him gone?

Is there some sentiment that Hayes would teach bad habits to young players? Armstrong didn’t say anything negative about him, which is a professional way to discuss it. But when he says “it didn’t work out” I wonder in what way specifically.

Dizee, I can’t take it any more. I’m putting you on block. Please don’t start any important threads. (I know, oxymoron.)

 

[Xerloris]

Who was the GM who agreed to take on that cap hit last year then decided that he stunk and it was worth a 2nd round pick to relieve him of that cap hit?

FIRE ARMSTRONG.

Could always be worse. Could have been PLD.

 

[ScratchCatFever]

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Who was the GM who agreed to take on that cap hit last year then decided that he stunk and it was worth a 2nd round pick to relieve him of that cap hit?

FIRE ARMSTRONG.

He has a whole calendar year to recoup that second or the equivalent in some fashion. I'm afraid you've gone mad..

 

[TheDizee]

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He has a whole calendar year to recoup that second or the equivalent in some fashion. I'm afraid you've gone mad..

We should be using this current timespan to ADD assets, not dump them off because of bad management decision.

We are not a serious contender for the next 3-5 years. So I want as many assets as I can to build a ELITE team.

 

[SirPaste]

Seems like I’m the only one who doesn’t really mind this deal. Sucks we had to give up a 2nd but removing Hayes from the lineup immediately improves the team, even if we don’t have a center replacement yet. I’m pretty confident that Army plans on recouping the second round pick in the next year maybe even next week, and I think he is still planning on brining in another center, whoever that my be. The team can’t really afford the buyout with no playoff revenue coming in so I don’t blame them for trying to save some actual dollars by dumping him, it was a bad move to begin with but I have no problem in Doug admitting his mistake and rectifying the situation, we simply could not go into next season with Hayes in the lineup

 

[BlueDream]

I also wonder if they thought Dvorsky wasn't going to be ready this year and that's why they brought in Hayes with his 3 years, and then they could trade him with a year left on contract when Dvorsky was ready. But Dvorsky progressed further than they thought so Hayes was expendable then.

Personally not a huge fan of paying 2nd to get rid of him, but it is what it is.

There is no way we should be penciling in Dvorsky. They have to be bringing in another forward.

 

[STLegend]

good riddance, worst player I've seen in a Blues sweater in the past 10 years, woof...

 

[stl76]

Apparently Armstrong and the Blues leadership value a potentially high 2nd round pick LESS than the value gained from getting rid of Kevin Hayes. Genuinely surprised since there haven’t been reports I’ve seen that he’s bad in the locker room or something (if anything it’s the opposite and people seem to like Hayes as a person).

I didn’t mind the gamble of bringing in Hayes originally and am willing to give Army some credit for publicly admitting his mistake…but still f***ing hate giving up a valuable pick at this point.

Would’ve much rather bought Hayes out or tried to give him away with retention for future considerations. Hell, would’ve rather just paid him his money and sent him to the AHL but kept the pick. But hey, it’s not my money.