Has Jeff O'Neill from TSN always been a jerk?

[Hank Chinaski]

It's also totally nonsensical. I can move to Toronto. You aren't special because you live in Toronto. I choose not to live in Toronto.

Dont'cha know? All the unskilled schlubs are confined to the Prairies and Maritimes. Toronto is where the best and brightest ply their trade!

 

[HannuJ]

Doug Gilmour? Tie Domi? Darcy Tucker? am i close?

i've met 1 out of the 3. also saw him getting gelato once and saw him yelling at his son during a practice and acting like a buttclown.

the jerk was Mike Gartner.
the nicest was Curtis Joseph.
most laid back and inconspicuous was a tie between Joseph and Wendell Clark.

Dont'cha know? All the unskilled schlubs are confined to the Prairies and Maritimes. Toronto is where the best and brightest ply their trade!

well...let's put it in perspective.
other than the insurance industry and oil (Alberta), Toronto is the financial hub and centre of Canada. so the best, brightest and highest paid of most professions would indeed be in Toronto...unless you're talking about physicians, where Saskatchewan and Manitoba need to overpay to attract people.

being a Wpg boy, i get frustrated when people say that Toronto is the centre of the universe. well, to be honest, we kind of are. our city has a higher population than the entire prairies, and as Toronto goes, the rest of Canada goes. If Winnipeg folded up shop, the rest of Canada would move on with little hiccup. If Toronto folded up shop, it would send the country's economy into a spiral.

there's definitely more disdain by non-torontonians towards toronto then torontonians have for the rest of Canada. we're pretty indifferent, as opposed to being uppity.

 

[Wolf357]

If we are getting on the whole Toronto as the center of the universe thing...
Many outside the Perimeter would have the same thing to say about those living inside the perimeter as having Perimeteritus...If you know what Permeteritus is you live outside the Perimeter if you dont you probably live inside the Perimeter.
My point being is that most of us live inside a bubble....

 

[pucka lucka]

i've met 1 out of the 3. also saw him getting gelato once and saw him yelling at his son during a practice and acting like a buttclown.

the jerk was Mike Gartner.
the nicest was Curtis Joseph.
most laid back and inconspicuous was a tie between Joseph and Wendell Clark.




well...let's put it in perspective.
other than the insurance industry and oil (Alberta), Toronto is the financial hub and centre of Canada. so the best, brightest and highest paid of most professions would indeed be in Toronto...unless you're talking about physicians, where Saskatchewan and Manitoba need to overpay to attract people.

being a Wpg boy, i get frustrated when people say that Toronto is the centre of the universe. well, to be honest, we kind of are. our city has a higher population than the entire prairies, and as Toronto goes, the rest of Canada goes. If Winnipeg folded up shop, the rest of Canada would move on with little hiccup. If Toronto folded up shop, it would send the country's economy into a spiral.

there's definitely more disdain by non-torontonians towards toronto then torontonians have for the rest of Canada. we're pretty indifferent, as opposed to being uppity.

Everyone knows all this. That's not the problem.

 

[Arthur Fonzarelli]

I wish Jeff O'Neil was playing for the Jets right now as a .500 hockey club, so we could trade him to Toronto, then suddenly make a mid-season turnaround and win the cup!

Oh wait that happened already in Carolina.

Jokes aside he left hockey of his accord. Players don't have 20 goals seasons & then abruptly retire the following year.

His alleged drunk driving incidents occurred prior to his brother Don's death. They are unrelated, but his trade to Toronto was of his own request to be near family during their mourning.

Regardless of his past, his comments last night hit a nerve in Winnipeg. The bigger question; is there any truth to this?

Drafted players are pretty much stuck with the team that drafted them. UFA's are in in for a cup win or big money. Are we to assume that players with modified NTC's, frequently list Winnipeg?

The type of players who seem less inclined to play in Winnipeg are undrafted prospects, like the Bruins' Torey Krug, who leads rookie defensemen in scoring. His left hand shot would have looked good on the Jets woeful left side (although another Enstrom sized player may not be ideal)

Has there been any undrafted prospects besides Axel Blomqvist that Chevy has scooped up? Boston, Rangers, Canadians, Flyers all seem to have had big payoffs in this regard over the years, something I don't recall Jets 1.0 or 2.0 achieving.

 

[leafster7]

there's definitely more disdain by non-torontonians towards toronto then torontonians have for the rest of Canada. we're pretty indifferent, as opposed to being uppity.

I always found this very humorous among the Canadians in the West and East.

Like really. Don't you guys outside of Ontario have something better to do than express such disdain at Toronto and its people? Torontonians simply don't care about people in the other provinces. We don't hate you or despise you, we just don't care. Why is the attitude of indifference met with such hostility and agitation?

 

[pucka lucka]

I always found this very humorous among the Canadians in the West and East.

Like really. Don't you guys outside of Ontario have something better to do than express such disdain at Toronto and its people? Torontonians simply don't care about people in the other provinces. We don't hate you or despise you, we just don't care. Why is the attitude of indifference met with such hostility and agitation?

I don't think you know what indifferent means.

 

[pucka lucka]

I wish Jeff O'Neil was playing for the Jets right now as a .500 hockey club, so we could trade him to Toronto, then suddenly make a mid-season turnaround and win the cup!

Oh wait that happened already in Carolina.

Jokes aside he left hockey of his accord. Players don't have 20 goals seasons & then abruptly retire the following year.

His alleged drunk driving incidents occurred prior to his brother Don's death. They are unrelated, but his trade to Toronto was of his own request to be near family during their mourning.

Regardless of his past, his comments last night hit a nerve in Winnipeg. The bigger question; is there any truth to this?

Drafted players are pretty much stuck with the team that drafted them. UFA's are in in for a cup win or big money.

The type of players who seem less inclined to play in Winnipeg are undrafted prospects, like the Bruins' Torey Krug, who leads rookie defensemen in scoring. His left hand shot would have looked good on the Jets woeful left side (although another Enstrom sized player may not be ideal)

Has there been any undrafted prospects besides Axel Blomqvist that Chevy has scooped up? Boston, Rangers, Canadians, Flyers all seem to have had big payoffs in this regard over the years, something I don't recall Jets 1.0 or 2.0 achieving.

None of this has anything to do with this thread. It was the context of the comments not the content.

 

[Arthur Fonzarelli]

None of this has anything to do with this thread. It was the context of the comments not the content.

I guess you didn't read the thread front to back then. Everything mentioned was brought up.

Also the topic of the thread is "Has Jeff O'Neil from TSN always been a jerk?" Anything that brings to light his history is relevant.

Of further relevance is the actual comment that some players don't want to play in Winnipeg. Asking if there's any truth to this & addressing why is a better conversation on hfboards than much contained in this thread.

[mod]

 

[SensibleGuy]

I always found this very humorous among the Canadians in the West and East.

Like really. Don't you guys outside of Ontario have something better to do than express such disdain at Toronto and its people? Torontonians simply don't care about people in the other provinces. We don't hate you or despise you, we just don't care. Why is the attitude of indifference met with such hostility and agitation?

lol, gee you're right! Why would all us Canadians who live in places other than Toronto have a hate on for Torontonians when they just see us as meaningless gnats flittering around contributing little other than occasionally being annoying??! We really should just shut our yaps and let you all get back to the hard work of being awesome!

 

[JC Numminen]

Anyone have a video of him saying it? I didn't get to see it

 

[larmex99]

I always found this very humorous among the Canadians in the West and East.

Like really. Don't you guys outside of Ontario have something better to do than express such disdain at Toronto and its people? Torontonians simply don't care about people in the other provinces. We don't hate you or despise you, we just don't care. Why is the attitude of indifference met with such hostility and agitation?

If the was true you wouldn't be here making an ******** comment like that, would you?

 

[Gump Hasek]

I always found this very humorous among the Canadians in the West and East.

Like really. Don't you guys outside of Ontario have something better to do than express such disdain at Toronto and its people? Torontonians simply don't care about people in the other provinces. We don't hate you or despise you, we just don't care. Why is the attitude of indifference met with such hostility and agitation?

Clearly you do care, or you wouldn't have wasted the effort to share and defend those claims.

If you are so aloof that you "don't care about people in the other provinces", then how we feel about you shouldn't really matter to you by extension. Yet, obviously it does. Huh!

 

[Analyst365]

I always found this very humorous among the Canadians in the West and East.

Like really. Don't you guys outside of Ontario have something better to do than express such disdain at Toronto and its people? Torontonians simply don't care about people in the other provinces. We don't hate you or despise you, we just don't care. Why is the attitude of indifference met with such hostility and agitation?

"We just don't care" he says. As he spends his time lurking on this thread, a Winnipeg thread, arrogantly pontificating about not caring.

Yet he is here and wonders where the agitation lies.

[mod] pretty much reinforces what others are saying about Torontonians.

Oh almost forgot:

 

[buggs]

If we are getting on the whole Toronto as the center of the universe thing...
Many outside the Perimeter would have the same thing to say about those living inside the perimeter as having Perimeteritus...If you know what Permeteritus is you live outside the Perimeter if you dont you probably live inside the Perimeter.
My point being is that most of us live inside a bubble....

See that's the funny thing about perception. I worked in a small town outside of Winnipeg for 14 years. They all talked about perimiteritis all the time and how ignorant "Winnipeggers" were about life in the country. Yet at the same time they all thought everyone in Winnipeg had had their car stolen and were in constant danger of being murdered. Couldn't understand how anyone could possibly live where it was so dangerous.

Yet when you talked to the RCMP in town, they knew damn well that the per capita crime rates were exactly the same in Winnipeg as they were in Carman or Steinbach or Brandon or Hamiota. It's a population density thing. Trust me, there are plenty of horror stories to go around living in the country. Just as there are in the "city".

Townies aren't actually any different than city folk. Maybe, MAYBE you can make a case for the folks on the actual farms being different, but townies? Nuh-uh.

Perimiteritis goes both ways.

Perception. It matters.

 

[truck]

Cars at AIH wrote this:

http://www.arcticicehockey.com/2014/1/1/5262926/not-frozen-out

 

[Aavco Cup]

He's still being a jerk

@odognine2: Feelin the love Winnipeg. Happy new year.

 

[Wolf357]

See that's the funny thing about perception. I worked in a small town outside of Winnipeg for 14 years. They all talked about perimiteritis all the time and how ignorant "Winnipeggers" were about life in the country. Yet at the same time they all thought everyone in Winnipeg had had their car stolen and were in constant danger of being murdered. Couldn't understand how anyone could possibly live where it was so dangerous.

Yet when you talked to the RCMP in town, they knew damn well that the per capita crime rates were exactly the same in Winnipeg as they were in Carman or Steinbach or Brandon or Hamiota. It's a population density thing. Trust me, there are plenty of horror stories to go around living in the country. Just as there are in the "city".

Townies aren't actually any different than city folk. Maybe, MAYBE you can make a case for the folks on the actual farms being different, but townies? Nuh-uh.

Perimiteritis goes both ways.

Perception. It matters.

Oh I agree... I grew up in Miami MB Population 400 moved to Winnipeg for 15 years and now live in St.Francois Xaiver (pop around 450)...my point was and is...we live in a bubble. it doesnt mater if its Toronto, Carman, or Miami MB... Your life centers around where you live...your bubble of a universe.

 

[pucka lucka]

Oh I agree... I grew up in Miami MB Population 400 moved to Winnipeg for 15 years and now live in St.Francois Xaiver (pop around 450)...my point was and is...we live in a bubble. it doesnt mater if its Toronto, Carman, or Miami MB... Your life centers around where you live...your bubble of a universe.

Some people live in a bubble. You don't speak for me, I know that much.

 

[Andy6]

I always found this very humorous among the Canadians in the West and East.

Like really. Don't you guys outside of Ontario have something better to do than express such disdain at Toronto and its people? Torontonians simply don't care about people in the other provinces. We don't hate you or despise you, we just don't care. Why is the attitude of indifference met with such hostility and agitation?

It is and should be when that attitude infects *national* institutions that operate out of Toronto, such as TSN. O'Neill made his insulting comment without stating any evidence for it, because he presumably has none. TSN is a federally licenced broadcaster with a mandate to serve all Canada, which includes having at least a basic knowledge of, and respectfulness towards, all parts of the country (or shutting up about other parts of the country if you don't).

 

[Guardian17]

Are you referring to his (since deleted) tweet? That was a doozy.





Haha. Stay classy, Jeff.

Did he really tweet that!?!

Whatever.

I remember when Chris Drury was traded to Calgary.

You could tell by the look on his face he was not happy and was later traded.

I totally get that not everyone wants to play in Winnipeg.

But to suggest that no one wants to play here is ridiculous.

You have to be tough to live here.

Something Jeff O'Neill is not.

Thirty years ago everyone wanted to play with Gretzky and the Oilers.

Mario Lemieux refused to put on a Penguins jersey when Pittsburgh drafted him.

If we build a winner, player will want to play here.

 

[AndersUlfBobby]

Had those comments had been made by Don Cherry there would have been a ruckus in the House of Commons about them. Some local non-Tory MP would have raised the issue at Question Period.

I guess if you are really offended enough, you could raise a complaint with the CTRC.

 

[Whileee]

Has there been any undrafted prospects besides Axel Blomqvist that Chevy has scooped up? Boston, Rangers, Canadians, Flyers all seem to have had big payoffs in this regard over the years, something I don't recall Jets 1.0 or 2.0 achieving.

Probably the hottest young free agent in recent years was Justin Schultz. He signed with the Edmonton Oilers at a time when they have a terrible team. The other big free agent was Danny Dekeyser who signed with Detroit. They had the advantage because he's from Michigan and wanted to play in his home state.

O'Neil's comments were idiotic because they are demonstrably false. What he actually said was that good young players don't want to sign long-term with Winnipeg. I guess he didn't bother to learn about the long-term deals signed by Ladd, Enstrom, Pavelec, Kane, Bogosian, Little and Wheeler.

I couldn't care less what the guy thinks about Winnipeg, but as a professional hockey commentator he should at least try to be less ignorant.

 

[sipowicz]

Had those comments had been made by Don Cherry there would have been a ruckus in the House of Commons about them. Some local non-Tory MP would have raised the issue at Question Period.

I guess if you are really offended enough, you could raise a complaint with the CTRC.

Maybe TSN will lose NHL hockey over this, .......oh, they already did?

 

[pucka lucka]

Maybe TSN will lose NHL hockey over this, .......oh, they already did?

This is one of the many reasons ....