Luigi Lemieux
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At every other level he was playing against children. What works in junior doesn't always translate to the NHL.
Has Connor Bedard quietly became underrated ?
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I mean how many games did Mario play with Sid in reality lol? 20?
Geno came year two - Hawks could have drafted a Malkin equivalent this year and chose not to
Sid put up 102 points in his rookie season - next closest was Sergei Gonchar with 58
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I've been critical but this speaks to being unlucky rather than bad.
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He needed to live with the Chicago version of Joe Thornton and get on the sticks and play fortnite. Can't succeed any other way.
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Look what Ovi had to start his career... And like the other poster said how many games did Sid play with Mario
I'm just saying he's not Mcdavid Crosby or Ovi that's not a very hot take or anything.
Totally agree he's not in a position to succeed but he doesn't have the ability of those 3 to blow a NHL game open on his own with seperation strength or speed like those guys did at 18-19 , I mean we are talking about the 3 best players in the 21st century its not like its a knock on bedard
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He lived with Mario for two years. Got to be mentored by one of the best - maybe the best - ever.
Bedard had Perry who promptly created a scandal with stupid rumours involving Bedard.
But they didn’t. That’s not Bedard’s fault.
And it’s year two for him now. I’m pretty sure he’d be happy with Malkin on his team.
Bedard was injured in his first year. Had the Perry crap to deal with. No support whatsoever.
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Crosby actually lived with Lemieux's family for the first five years of his career. I do agree Crosby was better insulated by the franchise overall, on and off the ice. Chicago needs to do better.
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It’s never really linear. A lot of people point to MacKinnon because he had an uneven progression.
They’ve scored 1.88 goals per game since Halloween. They’re the lowest scoring team in the league again after being historically low scoring last year.
He was essentially their first draft pick of the tank. They didn’t tank in 2021-2022. They sold off then, so he’s literally been it. But it’s also been worse than last year, so we’ll see what happens coach and roster wise. You stop Bedard and the Hawks do not score.
They’ve scored 1.88 goals per game since Halloween. They’re the lowest scoring team in the league again after being historically low scoring last year.
He was essentially their first draft pick of the tank. They didn’t tank in 2021-2022. They sold off then, so he’s literally been it. But it’s also been worse than last year, so we’ll see what happens coach and roster wise. You stop Bedard and the Hawks do not score.
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McDavid was the 3rd most productive player in the league as a rookie. Yeah, having decent teammates helps, but giving Bedard Eberle and Pouliot wasn't going to turn him into a top 20 scorer, let alone top 3.
Mario played 20 games, and Malkin wasn't there during Crosby's rookie season.
Crosby's back half of his rookie season is where he really took off, and he did it with Hilbert and Armstrong on his wings. He was 2nd in league scoring from Dec 23rd onwards, scoring at a 117 point pace with scrubs on his wing.
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He was the 3rd most productive player on his team as a rookie. He had Taylor Hall helping him out. The following year he had Drai putting up 77 points with him.
Apples and oranges.
Having a decent team at least insulates you somewhat. Bedard has nothing.
How many more points do you think he'd have this year if he had Drai with him?
It doens't matter. Again, he had Mario take him under his wing. And Malkin came in the following year.
Bedard had Perry who got him involved in the dumbest faux scandal in recent memory.
Cool. He was still in a much better environment. That's just a fact.
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He was third in the NHL in pts/gp as a rookie. Bedard wasn't in the top 50
Bedard has nothing, yet he's not even been the best forward on his team.
You're acting like rookie Crosby and McDavid had a prime Draisaitl lol. I'm sure Bedard would score more points with better linemates.
Bedard isn't putting up 1.5 ppg with Hilbert and Armstrong.
This all just sounds like excuses. Malkin had nothing to do with Crosby's rookie season. And I don't think Lemieux playing 20 games was all that helpful when they lost their first 10 games and had to fire their coach after being expected to be contenders.
They were different situations. Bedard came in with zero expectations to win, with great off ice pros like Foligno and Jones. Crosby was expected to carry the Pens to the playoffs right away, and then 10 games later he's already on his second coach.
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Sorry but no. Writing off Drai as some scrub is dumb. He put up 77 points with McD. Who does Bedard have who can do that right now?
Again, McD comes in at the end of a rebuild and Bedard is the first... It's not an excuse, it's just the reality of the situation. All those other players had support that Bedard could only dream of.
He has plenty of time to find his game. He's not even 20 yet. To say he won't be generational based on what we've seen so far is ludicrous. It's a marathon not a sprint.
