Has Connor Bedard quietly became underrated ?

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Nonsense. Hes 5'10 185 compard to Crosby who's 5'11 200. He needs to bulk up sure but that's it. He'll be fine once he does so.



Michkov has more talent on his team.

I’m pro Bedard and I’m sure he’ll figure it out he’s way too talented, the Flyers are an abomination. Michkov is playing with a 4th line center and a plug AHL winger. That’s a bs excuse.
 
I’m pro Bedard and I’m sure he’ll figure it out he’s way too talented, the Flyers are an abomination. Michkov is playing with a 4th line center and a plug AHL winger. That’s a bs post.
The Hawks are an abomination as well.
Ryan Donato is their best performing forward other than Bedard.
 
all i know is someone who is truly a generational talent wouldn’t need 34 pages of people making excuses for him.
Bedard beat a Getzky and a Lindros record in junior. And beat Mcdavid in PPG in junior by a fairly big margin. On worse teams , in a harder league.

Behave yourself.
 
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Nonsense. Hes 5'10 185 compard to Crosby who's 5'11 200. He needs to bulk up sure but that's it. He'll be fine once he does so.



Michkov has more talent on his team.
That's a generous 5-10, he looks tiny out there in comparison. But still, he's smaller, weighs less and is weaker. His style just seems it would be better as a winger as well.
 
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One of the few above average players on the Hawks roster is Taylor Hall. Who is....healthy scratched tonight vs Vancouver. Seth Jones on the IR. This team is quietly becoming the worst in the league again.

Who is this coach ? He looks like the kind of guy who sells you a Caddilac Eldorado.
 
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Bedard beat a Getzky and a Lindros record in junior. And beat Mcdavid in PPG in junior by a fairly big margin. On worse teams , in a harder league.

Behave yourself.
It's year 2 in the NHL, why are you still talking about juniors? He has to do it in the NHL as well for any McDavid or Crosby comparisons to make sense.
 
I’m pro Bedard and I’m sure he’ll figure it out he’s way too talented, the Flyers are an abomination. Michkov is playing with a 4th line center and a plug AHL winger. That’s a bs excuse.
Michkov is scoring the majority of his points on the PP, not with a 4C and ahl winger.

Bedard and Co are not getting it done though.
 
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It's quite clear that he won't hit McDavid's level, but Marner as his best case result... come on.

Bedard can do more through the neutral zone than Michkov so I think that he's more likely to be the better player. Both are on the small side and lack strong straight-line speed thus there are limits to what they can do. Both are brilliant with the puck on their stick inside the offensive blue line; that's when they can really dominate. Marner could only dream of shooting the puck the way that they can.

I’m not talking about style of player, I’m saying he looks like he’ll top out at Marner-level production
 
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Neither was I referring to style.

You talked about the neutral zone and shooting the puck, I don’t see where that’s not talking about playing style?

How much more production do you think Bedard will achieve compared to Marner? Peak year? Career numbers?

Have a look and let me know, I’m curious
 
You talked about the neutral zone and shooting the puck, I don’t see where that’s not talking about playing style?

How much more production do you think Bedard will achieve compared to Marner? Peak year? Career numbers?

Have a look and let me know, I’m curious
I would be surprised if Bedard doesn't win at least one scoring title. Marner's top finishes are 4th (in the shortened season) and 10th, and a long way behind the top two guys in both cases. Bedard has far more goal scoring potential.
 
It’s kind of baffling how little they have played together. Seems like Richardson has tried everyone else on the roster, but he just won’t do it.

Yeah that was my main point, I don’t get it. Bertuzzi has many years of playing with stars and having success. Bedard is struggling and yet they’ve only played 18 minutes together all season.

All I can think is that Bertuzzi isn’t the fastest skater and wouldn’t be great on rush chances, but that’s only one aspect of the game. Bertuzzis a great passer and could probably set up Bedard well at times. Just last season Bertuzzi was on Matthews wing during his hottest goal scoring streak.
 
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Michkov has more talent on his team.
The Flyers are terrible and have 16 points compared to the Hawks, who have 13.

When people talked about Bedard, especially compared to Michkov, they insisted Bedard was "generational" and multiple levels above Michkov. My point is, that neither are true.

As for Michkov, it's silly to slight him. He has more points than Bedard, Carlsson, and Fantilli this year. And it's his first year in the league, in a new country, and he doesn't even speak English.

For the record, I think Bedard is going to be just fine... a superstar in the NHL. However, my reply was in regards to him being called "underrated" which is crazy. Right now, he's definitely overrated if anything. And possibly severely overrated. Just being honest.
 
The Flyers are terrible and have 16 points compared to the Hawks, who have 13.

When people talked about Bedard, especially compared to Michkov, they insisted Bedard was "generational" and multiple levels above Michkov. My point is, that neither are true.
Who? Constantly people had them on a near same level. I am constantly baffled at what some seemed to think was the main consensus view of that draft.

That's why so many teams have been mocked for passing on Michkov
 
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