Prospect Info: Hartford Wolf Pack/Cincinnati Cyclones Thread: Part XV

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I noticed they recalled Boyko and that he was the backup last night. Something may be wrong with Domingue.
Domingue day-to-day.
D corps also banged up, so Siedem was also recalled to Pack from E as the extra


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Roobroeck is earning a call up. 15th goal of the season. Call up the players that earn it not AHL vets.

4 goals from rookie players.

3 points for Roobroeck tonight
In a perfect world he's up for this Cali swing and gets in against the Ducks and Sharks however I'd leave him alone for this season, let him train hard, and compete for a fourth line C role this fall.

Roobroeck and Laba nailing down spots in the bottom six would be a lovely injection of youth.
 
In a perfect world he's up for this Cali swing and gets in against the Ducks and Sharks however I'd leave him alone for this season, let him train hard, and compete for a fourth line C role this fall.

Roobroeck and Laba nailing down spots in the bottom six would be a lovely injection of youth.
I want him to stay in Hartford and help them fight for the playoffs. I think that will be more beneficial for him than playing a few games in the NHL. If both Hartford and the Rangers fall out of their respective races, then give him a couple games to see what he needs to work on for next year.
 
Garand has started the last 3 games, all wins, with the last 2 being back-to-backs. Maybe they are going to ride him as much as possible the rest of the way to try to get into the playoffs.

They play again on Wednesday, then Saturday, then not again until the following Saturday and Sunday. There's no reason he can't play those first 3 games and maybe the 4th as well. They have one more back-to-back in the final 5 games, so he can play at least 4 of those.

It's good to see him having a solid year. He's 20th in the league in GAA, tied for 9th in save percentage, and tied for 8th in wins. The wins total is impressive given where the team is in the standings. He has 19 wins, and the league leader has 23. Hopefully he can win a bunch more down the stretch.

With Quick already signed for next year, it's a good bet Garand will be in the AHL again, but that's okay. He turns 23 in June. That's still pretty young for a goalie. Hopefully he'll get some games at the NHL level and then be the backup in 2026-27. People keep wondering if we'll trade him, but there's no reason to do that. He will still be exempt from waivers for the next 2 years.
I am not an expert on NHL waivers but the way I read the rules he is not exempt from waivers next year. I'm hoping someone can point out that I am wrong.

Here are the rules:

The following table from the current CBA indicates when a player is no longer exempt from waivers. For example, a skater who signs his entry-level contract at 18 will become exempt after playing 160 NHL games, or after five seasons (whichever comes first).

NHL Waivers

Garand turns 23 on June 7th. He will be completing his third year and because of his three years he is a RFA after this year. According to the chart goalies are no longer exempt if they are 23 and 3 years from signing an NHL contract.

When the Rangers resigned Quick I immediately wondered what effect that would have on Garand.
 
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I am not an expert on NHL waivers but the way I read the rules he is not exempt from waivers next year. I'm hoping someone can point out that I am wrong.

Here are the rules:

The following table from the current CBA indicates when a player is no longer exempt from waivers. For example, a skater who signs his entry-level contract at 18 will become exempt after playing 160 NHL games, or after five seasons (whichever comes first).

NHL Waivers

Garand turns 23 on June 7th. He will be completing his third year and because of his three years he is a RFA after this year. According to the chart goalies are no longer exempt if they are 23 and 3 years from signing an NHL contract.

When the Rangers resigned Quick I immediately wondered what effect that would have on Garand.
What the chart means is depending on when a player signs (Garand was 19), he maintains his waiver eligiblity for either X years or X games. So since Garand is a goalie who signed at 19, he has 5 years or 80 NHL games played before he loses the eligibility. He won't hit the games played mark this year or likely next, and he has only played 3 years since signing his contract. He should have 2 more years before he loses his waiver exemption.

EDIT: See below, it's one more year.
 
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PuckPedia has a waivers tracker:


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It lists Garand with 3 seasons, but I noticed now that this doesn't include the current year yet (otherwise Chmelar would be 1/3). So, Garand has 1 more year of being exempt.

That aligns with him being the backup in 2026-27.
2021-2022 was a slide year according to PuckPedia so that's gotta be it. The slide year doesn't count towards his contract, but does count towards waiver exemption. So yeah what you're saying should be right, he should have one more final year of waiver eligiblity.
 
I was looking into it last week or so when Quick extension was announced so I posted that Garand won’t be waiver eligible for another year (2025-2026) but will become waiver eligible after (2026-2027). On the paper it looks like there is a good transition plan is in place to go from Quick to Garand as Shesterkin’s backup.

PS. Got to draft another goalie this year.
 
I was looking into it last week or so when Quick extension was announced so I posted that Garand won’t be waiver eligible for another year (2025-2026) but will become waiver eligible after (2026-2027). On the paper it looks like there is a good transition plan is in place to go from Quick to Garand as Shesterkin’s backup.

PS. Got to draft another goalie this year.
Thanks to all for clarifying.
 
I am not an expert on NHL waivers but the way I read the rules he is not exempt from waivers next year. I'm hoping someone can point out that I am wrong.

Here are the rules:

The following table from the current CBA indicates when a player is no longer exempt from waivers. For example, a skater who signs his entry-level contract at 18 will become exempt after playing 160 NHL games, or after five seasons (whichever comes first).

NHL Waivers

Garand turns 23 on June 7th. He will be completing his third year and because of his three years he is a RFA after this year. According to the chart goalies are no longer exempt if they are 23 and 3 years from signing an NHL contract.

When the Rangers resigned Quick I immediately wondered what effect that would have on Garand.
Re goalies, I think it’s better - in general - to let them bake as long as possible. I think Georgiev was rushed and it backfired. Assuming we can keep Garand, I think it’s wise for him to play another year in Hartford as the undisputed number one. He can be the backup once Quick retires. Or, frankly, he’s probably better served putting up great numbers in Hartford and getting traded. Igor is here for a while. There are plenty of guys well suited to being the backup.
 
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Re goalies, I think it’s better - in general - to let them bake as long as possible. I think Georgiev was rushed and it backfired. Assuming we can keep Garand, I think it’s wise for him to play another year in Hartford as the undisputed number one. He can be the backup once Quick retires. Or, frankly, he’s probably better served putting up great numbers in Hartford and getting traded. Igor is here for a while. There are plenty of guys well suited to being the backup.
I think it’s a view with the benefit of a hindsights. Georgiev came with an experience from another pro league and did well in Hartford. He got here before Shesterkin and earned his promotion. What happened to him is largely in the mental aspect and this is a very unknown area in terms of what ifs.
 
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I think it’s a view with the benefit of a hindsights. Georgiev came with an experience from another pro league and did well in Hartford. He got here before Shesterkin and earned his promotion. What happened to him is largely in the mental aspect and this is a very unknown area in terms of what ifs.
Mental is part of it for sure. And impossible for us to know about, without more data, at least.
I’m just talking about him losing his form so often. My thinking Is he simply needed more reps as a starter. More than a skater, form has to be virtually perfect for a goalie.
 

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