OT - NO POLITICS Happy Holidays Edition

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I had a boss like that. Never made a decision, never gave an opinion, was hired because he just did what the idiots above him told him to and never made waves. Then the idiots got purged, the people who replaced them were actually competent, and my boss took early retirement after getting threatened with a PIP for the very actions that endeared him to the former executives. It takes a while, but eventually, if leadership isn't working against it, the incompetent rise to surface and are skimmed off the top.
I am dealing with that exact thing right now. Our CEO got whacked about 4 months ago, and the new guy (an external hire) is superb. Exactly what we need.

Now, everyone VP and above, who were the decision influencers to the old CEO and had a hand in all the stupid shit that didn't work, are suddenly playing what I like to call "Career Defense". I'm waiting for the skimmer to clean them up....
 
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I had a boss like that. Never made a decision, never gave an opinion, was hired because he just did what the idiots above him told him to and never made waves. Then the idiots got purged, the people who replaced them were actually competent, and my boss took early retirement after getting threatened with a PIP for the very actions that endeared him to the former executives. It takes a while, but eventually, if leadership isn't working against it, the incompetent rise to surface and are skimmed off the top.
If leadership isn't against it.... and let me add, if it isn't a family-run business....

I'm sure there are some good ones out there, but I have no desire to work for another family-run business.
 
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yeah that's.....that's crazy. Had you kept the higher-performing employee in that role I could see it, but it was resumption of normal duty - how is that not resignation, lol

It could be (without knowing the intricacies obviously) that this was a bigger picture calculated talent move that they decided to swallow a package on
For many a year I was the most selfish person on the planet, but can honestly say now that I am not I am the happiest person on the planet that can see his blessings in abundance.
 

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That's exactly what it was. My choice was to either 1) Reject his severance request and force a guy go back into a role that he struggled in previously, and clearly had no desire to return to; or 2) give him 4 months, be done with the headache, and promote someone who was eager to do the job, and demonstrated that they could do it well.

As much as I hated the idea of paying a guy for wanting to quit, I bit the bullet. I figured that if we forced him to come back, he'd just "quiet quit" on me and I'd end up spending the next 4 months putting him on a PIP and going through the bullshit of having to formally separate him. I figured I was gonna end up paying him 4 months anyway, so I just eliminated the headache.

Here's where it got interesting.........After we offered him 4 months severance, he COUNTERED back asking for 12! I told him he could either take the 4 months, or I expected him back to work on Monday and we'd do it the hard way.

He ended up taking the 4 months....
i first "liked" the post, then when I finished had to shift to a lawl emoji lol
 

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If leadership isn't against it.... and let me add, if it isn't a family-run business....

I'm sure there are some good ones out there, but I have no desire to work for another family-run business.

Unfortunately for me, I spent way too much time at a place where the people in charge were deathly afraid of being exposed for the idiots they were, so they never hired anybody smarter than them (if they could help it) and that bar was not very high. I was hired because I was critical to the job, and as such I was resented, and had a target on my back from day one. Luckily, that has all changed and the chickens have come home to roost. Almost makes it worth the hellish years (Almost).
 
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Unfortunately for me, I spent way too much time at a place where the people in charge were deathly afraid of being exposed for the idiots they were, so they never hired anybody smarter than them (if they could help it) and that bar was not very high. I was hired because I was critical to the job, and as such I was resented, and had a target on my back from day one. Luckily, that has all changed and the chickens have come home to roost. Almost makes it worth the hellish years (Almost).

we should all ask ourselves: WWT85D?
 

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For many a year I was the most selfish person on the planet, but can honestly say now that I am not I am the happiest person on the planet that can see his blessings in abundance.

In general I'm with you.

Sometimes you gotta cut bait for self-preservation.
 
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Also interesting 🤔


As a millennial, let me introduce you to a concept called quiet quitting...
You can also take 6 paid months off because you need to bond with your pet hamster now too 🤣
 
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we should all ask ourselves: WWT85D?
You should quit, then get a job in a restaurant, boast to everyone about how you're the hardest and best worker in the whole kitchen, completely blind as to why that rubs the manager and other coworkers the wrong way and complain about them and their attitudes toward you until everything breaks down and you quit and find a new restaurant.
 
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Hey Kate, understanding that American policy may differ here, perhaps even state by state, a question - can one (safely) volunteer to be laid off, or would that be considered an implicit resignation and thus disqualify someone from severance?

Asking for a friend who’s definitely not me teetering on the precipice of corporate hell

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I volunteered to get laid off in 2018 but they threw a sweet package my way to do so. Was the best decision I have ever made career wise.
 
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I volunteered to get laid off in 2018 but they threw a sweet package my way to do so. Was the best decision I have ever mad career wise.
Yeah that’s the key - getting that offer first

We have some understated doom and gloom around here (must be the record profits for the 487th straight quarter) and I feel like raising my hand saying pick me pick me and then heading 12-18 hours north and saying goodbye to society woah this got dark
 

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Yeah that’s the key - getting that offer first

We have some understated doom and gloom around here (must be the record profits for the 487th straight quarter) and I feel like raising my hand saying pick me pick me and then heading 12-18 hours north and saying goodbye to society woah this got dark
This was the second time they dangled a package at us that year. The first one was insulting. This one had a few of us say yes. I'm glad I took it because a few months later they dropped the hammer and the people who stayed got nothing extra.

I've seen employees ask to be voluntarily laid off with severance. I've seen some get it and others not, it just depends on the situation.
 
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I’m retiring ON FRIDAY. 3 more days. Cheers!
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“You can be miserable before you have a cookie, and you can be miserable after you eat a cookie, but you can’t be miserable while you are eating a cookie.”
 
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