Isles fan primarily, Sharks are my second / western team.
Isles fan primarily, Sharks are my second / western team.
I agree with you that yes, Schaefer fits better for the Sharks than he does for the Islanders.
However for the Islanders... beggars can't be choosers. You are correct we need to surround him with the right players, but the same would be equally true for Misa. We have to start somewhere
We drafted Bossy in the mid first round, so who knows? Between Eiserman and now Cal Ritchie, we at least have some forward prospects with potential. We have no real defensive prospects to speak of. Hell San Jose has Dickinson. Isles would kill for a player like that in our system. So this is a rare opportunity for us.
I certainly hope we don't have to bottom out to acquire the kind of talent San Jose has in the last recently.
Sure. But when a D man like Schaefer is available teams have to take him, especially when the forwards at 2 and 3 are the guys in this draft. The ceiling of Schaefer and impact he can have on a club is far too high to pass on.
Except for the data provided and the numerous examples pointed out to you of being able to find 1D outside the top of the draft. And then you have scouts saying they don't even see him as a true 1D: Matthew Schaefer? Michael Misa? Scout offers takeaways on seven Sharks' No. 2 draft pick prospects
That’s basically it. If there was no consensus #1 and 1/2 the argument can go to Misa and 1/2 argument can go to Schaefer as the best player available this would be a more difficult choice for the Isles. But given the pivotal role a potential franchise 2 way defenseman holds even if were a tie in votes I would give the nod to the defenseman. This draft year is unquestionable you go for the elite dman especially since he’s a consensus #1 best player available.
Your team shouldn’t give up a ton of assets to get him but as that article I referenced pointed out the only to really acquire a true #1 D is primarily through the draft. As they often do not manifest themselves like Schaefer some GMs such as McPhee were instructed to draft only defensemen and hope one of them turns out to be good. They are invaluable.
Nobody doubts a good 1D improves your cup chances greatly. I don't think you're following the argument, and after 10 pages it seems unlikely you ever will.
Trust me I follow all the arguments clearly unfortunately you just don’t have one. All I’m reading are a bunch of emotional disgruntled fans upset that some team from 10 spots below leap frogged them to steal a consensus #1 player and potential elite Dman. The argument being raised is that the Islanders should pick Misa over Schaefer because picking a dman with elite skills over a potential 1C represents some kind of huge risk.
1st trade :
It would cost more than half the price if Islanders are moving down from Schaefer to Hagens / Frondell / Desnoyers. Each slot they move down, they'll ask for more. One team or two teams, either way.
I am under the assumption(speculation more than fact) Islanders take Schaefer 1st, Hagens 2nd where as SJ wants Schaefer 1st and would take Misa if Schaefer isn't there at their pick while Chicago wants Misa.
This is why Islanders can't afford to get cute / greedy if they decide they want to trade down for Hagens. Trade down to 3 and draft him. If you trade down to 4, it's possible for Nashville, Philly, Boston etc to trade up to 3 and steal Hagens with Islanders sitting there with their d__k in their hands on the clock to draft at 4.
