Hagel sets record for most goals scored without any PP goals


I really like Hagel and understand why the Black Hawks traded him at the time but if you are beating a record held by Doug Smail.......


I'm also curious does anyone know who holds the record of most goals in a season without a multi goal game?

i was thinking of this when Josh anderson scored 2 goals the other game.
 
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A couple of questions—Hagel has the fourth most PP TOI per game for TBL forwards. Why does he have only have 0 goals and 8 assists? He has 3g and 7a on the PK. Hagel PKing is more dangerous than Hagel on the PP.

Why does Protas basically (8s per game) not play on the PP?
 
I'm also curious does anyone know who holds the record of most goals in a season without a multi goal game?

Season (1917-2024)

PlayerPOSSeasonG
MacInnis AlD1993-9428
Pavelski JoeC2023-2427
Sakic JoeC1997-9827
Kunitz ChrisLW2011-1226
Draisaitl LeonC2017-1825
Brunette AndrewLW2009-1025
Stemkowski PeteC1973-7425
Gagne SimonLW2003-0424
Hrdina JanC2001-0224
Simpson CraigLW1991-9224
Nash RickLW2016-1723
Sykora PetrRW2003-0423
Thornton JoeC1999-0023
Housley PhilD1990-9123
McNab PeterC1984-8523
Connelly WayneC1969-7023
Gallagher BrendanRW2019-2022
Beleskey MattLW2014-1522
Williams JustinRW2010-1122
Brunette AndrewLW2008-0922
Booth DavidLW2007-0822
Tanguay AlexLW2006-0722
Thornton JoeC2006-0722
Campbell JimRW1997-9822
Oates AdamC1996-9722
Ciccarelli DinoRW1995-9622
Larionov IgorC1995-9622
Tucker JohnRW1984-8522
Foligno MikeRW1982-8322
Maki WayneLW1971-7222
Watson HarryLW1951-5222
Anderson JoshRW2022-2321
Okposo KyleRW2021-2221
Stephenson ChandlerC2021-2221
Landeskog GabrielLW2019-2021
Tkachuk BradyLW2019-2021
Backstrom NicklasC2017-1821
Ferland MichealLW2017-1821
Tatar TomasLW2015-1621
Duchene MattC2014-1521
Cogliano AndrewC2013-1421
Sutter BrandonC2009-1021
Ekman NisseRW2005-0621
Vermette AntoineC2005-0621
Langkow DaymondC2003-0421
Roenick JeremyC2001-0221
Sullivan SteveLW2001-0221
Scatchard DaveC2000-0121
Marois DanielRW1990-9121
Naslund MatsLW1989-9021
Brown JeffD1988-8921
Mellanby ScottRW1988-8921
Gilmour DougC1984-8521
Larson ReedD1981-8221
Parise J.P.LW1977-7821
Hall MurrayRW1970-7121
Stasiuk VicLW1957-5821
Hall TaylorLW2021-2220
Chimera JasonLW2016-1720
Horvat BoC2016-1720
Anisimov ArtemC2015-1620
Staal JordanC2015-1620
Byfuglien DustinD2010-1120
Parenteau PARW2010-1120
Gionta BrianRW2008-0920
Halpern JeffC2007-0820
Lang RobertC2005-0620
Amonte TonyRW2003-0420
Ribeiro MikeC2003-0420
Arkhipov DenisC2001-0220
Sedin DanielLW2000-0120
Drury ChrisC1999-0020
Jones KeithRW1998-9920
Smyth RyanLW1997-9820
McPhee MikeLW1993-9420
Ricci MikeC1991-9220
Errey BobLW1990-9120
MacTavish CraigC1986-8720
Sutter DuaneRW1985-8620
Hunter DaleC1984-8520
Olczyk EddieRW1984-8520
Lambert LaneRW1983-8420
Steen ThomasC1983-8420
McEwen MikeD1978-7920
Stanfield FredLW1972-7320
Delvecchio AlexC1971-7220
Nevin BobRW1966-6720
DeMarco Sr. AbC1945-4620



Career (1917-2025)

PlayerPOSSeasonsG
Jonsson KennyD1994-0463
Engvall PierreLW2019-2562
Brodin JonasD2012-2558
Norwood LeeD1980-9358
Niinimaa JanneD1996-0654
Sullivan MikeC1991-0254
Quenneville JoelD1978-9154
Thorburn ChrisRW2006-1853
Ceci CodyD2013-2552
Norton JeffD1987-0152
Persson StefanD1977-8652
Larsson AdamD2011-2551
Dobson NoahD2019-2548
Samuelsson KjellD1986-9948
Marsh PeterRW1979-8448
Kampf DavidC2017-2547
Mortson GusD1946-5846
Andersson RasmusD2018-2545
Gilbert TomD2006-1745
Carle MattD2005-1645
White IanD2005-1345
Salei RuslanD1997-1145
Carney KeithD1991-0845
Harbaruk NickRW1969-7445
Seidenberg DennisD2002-1744
Fogolin Jr. LeeD1974-8744
Franson CodyD2009-1843
Price PatD1976-8643
Murphy ConnorD2013-2542
Michalek ZbynekD2003-1642
Hajt BillD1974-8642
Smith JasonD1995-0941
Ray RobRW1989-0441
Haller KevinD1990-0141
Prust BrandonLW2008-1640
Janssens MarkC1989-9940
Wolanin CraigD1985-9640
Morrison JimD1952-7040
Manson JoshD2015-2539
Gusarov AlexeiD1990-0139
Rochefort NormandD1980-9139
Lunde LenC1958-7139
Smith BrendanD2011-2538
Hannan ScottD1999-1538
Johnson RyanC1998-1138
Mair AdamC1999-1138
Snepsts HaroldD1974-9138
Crawford JackD1938-5038
Rouse BobD1984-9837
Racine YvesD1989-9737
Hicks DougD1974-8237
Wilson BertLW1973-8137
Quincey KyleD2006-1736
Regehr RobynD1999-1536
Gill HalD1997-1236
Ward JasonRW1999-0836
Bergevin MarcD1985-0436
Lewis DaveD1973-8736
Hillman LarryD1956-7336
Cole IanD2010-2535
McCabe JakeD2015-2535
Tanev ChrisD2012-2535
Richardson LukeD1987-0835
Tarnstrom DickD2001-0835
Hall MurrayRW1963-7235
Gudbranson ErikD2011-2534
Girard SamuelD2017-2534
Klefbom OscarD2013-2034
Colaiacovo CarloD2005-1634
Boynton NickD2001-1134
Karpovtsev AlexanderD1993-0334
Musil FrantisekD1986-9834
Finn StevenD1986-9734
Peters GarryC1965-7134
Steckel DavidC2007-1333
Malik MarekD1996-0833
Rautakallio PekkaD1979-8233
Barabanov AlexanderLW2020-2432
Graves RyanD2018-2532
McNabb BraydenD2011-2532
Nordstrom JoakimC2013-2132
Weal JordanC2016-2032
Bouillon FrancisD1999-1432
Fedoruk ToddLW2000-1032
Perrin EricC2006-0932
White RyanC2010-1731
O'Donnell SeanD1995-1131
Kearns DennisD1971-8131
Awrey DonD1963-7931
O'Brien DennisD1970-7931
Gunnarsson CarlD2009-2030
Schultz NickD2001-1630
Lefebvre SylvainD1989-0130
Ladouceur RandyD1983-9630
Trimper TimLW1979-8530
Carlson JackLW1978-8430
 
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A couple of questions—Hagel has the fourth most PP TOI per game for TBL forwards. Why does he have only have 0 goals and 8 assists? He has 3g and 7a on the PK. Hagel PKing is more dangerous than Hagel on the PP.

Why does Protas basically (8s per game) not play on the PP?

He played mostly on PP2 at the start of the year and his role on PP1 is just to fetch pucks while Point/Hedman/Kucherov play hot potato.
 
Chicago trading Hagel may backfire for them. He really could have helped bedard this year. Also young enough to still be apart of their rebuild longterm.
They underestimated his worth for sure. Still like the Dach and DeBrincat trades in a vacuum, but the players they took (especially Korchinski) might have made those busts too.
 
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Season (1917-2024)

PlayerPOSSeasonG
MacInnis AlD1993-9428
Pavelski JoeC2023-2427
Sakic JoeC1997-9827
Kunitz ChrisLW2011-1226
Draisaitl LeonC2017-1825
Brunette AndrewLW2009-1025
Stemkowski PeteC1973-7425
Gagne SimonLW2003-0424
Hrdina JanC2001-0224
Simpson CraigLW1991-9224
Nash RickLW2016-1723
Sykora PetrRW2003-0423
Thornton JoeC1999-0023
Housley PhilD1990-9123
McNab PeterC1984-8523
Connelly WayneC1969-7023
Gallagher BrendanRW2019-2022
Beleskey MattLW2014-1522
Williams JustinRW2010-1122
Brunette AndrewLW2008-0922
Booth DavidLW2007-0822
Tanguay AlexLW2006-0722
Thornton JoeC2006-0722
Campbell JimRW1997-9822
Oates AdamC1996-9722
Ciccarelli DinoRW1995-9622
Larionov IgorC1995-9622
Tucker JohnRW1984-8522
Foligno MikeRW1982-8322
Maki WayneLW1971-7222
Watson HarryLW1951-5222
Anderson JoshRW2022-2321
Okposo KyleRW2021-2221
Stephenson ChandlerC2021-2221
Landeskog GabrielLW2019-2021
Tkachuk BradyLW2019-2021
Backstrom NicklasC2017-1821
Ferland MichealLW2017-1821
Tatar TomasLW2015-1621
Duchene MattC2014-1521
Cogliano AndrewC2013-1421
Sutter BrandonC2009-1021
Ekman NisseRW2005-0621
Vermette AntoineC2005-0621
Langkow DaymondC2003-0421
Roenick JeremyC2001-0221
Sullivan SteveLW2001-0221
Scatchard DaveC2000-0121
Marois DanielRW1990-9121
Naslund MatsLW1989-9021
Brown JeffD1988-8921
Mellanby ScottRW1988-8921
Gilmour DougC1984-8521
Larson ReedD1981-8221
Parise J.P.LW1977-7821
Hall MurrayRW1970-7121
Stasiuk VicLW1957-5821
Hall TaylorLW2021-2220
Chimera JasonLW2016-1720
Horvat BoC2016-1720
Anisimov ArtemC2015-1620
Staal JordanC2015-1620
Byfuglien DustinD2010-1120
Parenteau PARW2010-1120
Gionta BrianRW2008-0920
Halpern JeffC2007-0820
Lang RobertC2005-0620
Amonte TonyRW2003-0420
Ribeiro MikeC2003-0420
Arkhipov DenisC2001-0220
Sedin DanielLW2000-0120
Drury ChrisC1999-0020
Jones KeithRW1998-9920
Smyth RyanLW1997-9820
McPhee MikeLW1993-9420
Ricci MikeC1991-9220
Errey BobLW1990-9120
MacTavish CraigC1986-8720
Sutter DuaneRW1985-8620
Hunter DaleC1984-8520
Olczyk EddieRW1984-8520
Lambert LaneRW1983-8420
Steen ThomasC1983-8420
McEwen MikeD1978-7920
Stanfield FredLW1972-7320
Delvecchio AlexC1971-7220
Nevin BobRW1966-6720
DeMarco Sr. AbC1945-4620



Career (1917-2025)

PlayerPOSSeasonsG
Jonsson KennyD1994-0463
Engvall PierreLW2019-2562
Brodin JonasD2012-2558
Norwood LeeD1980-9358
Niinimaa JanneD1996-0654
Sullivan MikeC1991-0254
Quenneville JoelD1978-9154
Thorburn ChrisRW2006-1853
Ceci CodyD2013-2552
Norton JeffD1987-0152
Persson StefanD1977-8652
Larsson AdamD2011-2551
Dobson NoahD2019-2548
Samuelsson KjellD1986-9948
Marsh PeterRW1979-8448
Kampf DavidC2017-2547
Mortson GusD1946-5846
Andersson RasmusD2018-2545
Gilbert TomD2006-1745
Carle MattD2005-1645
White IanD2005-1345
Salei RuslanD1997-1145
Carney KeithD1991-0845
Harbaruk NickRW1969-7445
Seidenberg DennisD2002-1744
Fogolin Jr. LeeD1974-8744
Franson CodyD2009-1843
Price PatD1976-8643
Murphy ConnorD2013-2542
Michalek ZbynekD2003-1642
Hajt BillD1974-8642
Smith JasonD1995-0941
Ray RobRW1989-0441
Haller KevinD1990-0141
Prust BrandonLW2008-1640
Janssens MarkC1989-9940
Wolanin CraigD1985-9640
Morrison JimD1952-7040
Manson JoshD2015-2539
Gusarov AlexeiD1990-0139
Rochefort NormandD1980-9139
Lunde LenC1958-7139
Smith BrendanD2011-2538
Hannan ScottD1999-1538
Johnson RyanC1998-1138
Mair AdamC1999-1138
Snepsts HaroldD1974-9138
Crawford JackD1938-5038
Rouse BobD1984-9837
Racine YvesD1989-9737
Hicks DougD1974-8237
Wilson BertLW1973-8137
Quincey KyleD2006-1736
Regehr RobynD1999-1536
Gill HalD1997-1236
Ward JasonRW1999-0836
Bergevin MarcD1985-0436
Lewis DaveD1973-8736
Hillman LarryD1956-7336
Cole IanD2010-2535
McCabe JakeD2015-2535
Tanev ChrisD2012-2535
Richardson LukeD1987-0835
Tarnstrom DickD2001-0835
Hall MurrayRW1963-7235
Gudbranson ErikD2011-2534
Girard SamuelD2017-2534
Klefbom OscarD2013-2034
Colaiacovo CarloD2005-1634
Boynton NickD2001-1134
Karpovtsev AlexanderD1993-0334
Musil FrantisekD1986-9834
Finn StevenD1986-9734
Peters GarryC1965-7134
Steckel DavidC2007-1333
Malik MarekD1996-0833
Rautakallio PekkaD1979-8233
Barabanov AlexanderLW2020-2432
Graves RyanD2018-2532
McNabb BraydenD2011-2532
Nordstrom JoakimC2013-2132
Weal JordanC2016-2032
Bouillon FrancisD1999-1432
Fedoruk ToddLW2000-1032
Perrin EricC2006-0932
White RyanC2010-1731
O'Donnell SeanD1995-1131
Kearns DennisD1971-8131
Awrey DonD1963-7931
O'Brien DennisD1970-7931
Gunnarsson CarlD2009-2030
Schultz NickD2001-1630
Lefebvre SylvainD1989-0130
Ladouceur RandyD1983-9630
Trimper TimLW1979-8530
Carlson JackLW1978-8430
Thanks, I thought you might have that stat but couldn't remember your handle?

I also thought that it would be a Dman but on the single season and career lists both Pavelski and Engvall stand out.
 
On HF Boards, this is like the Medal of Honor.

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I remember at the 4 nations hearing about being one of the best even strength goal scorers in the league this year.

So I took a look at NHL.com and was floored to see no goals and not many assists on PP. Then thought what kind coach isn't playing this guy on the PP. Only to find out he was getting plenty of PP time :laugh:

Just an unreal type of stat
 
Isn't it technically more "impressive" to avoid scoring PP goals with all the time you get on the PP though. Also means you had less time to get those non-PP goals...
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All it means is he couldn't score PP goals, how is that "impressive" in any way lol?

What's the next "record", who's the player who scored the most goals while not washing their socks?

Most goals scored on year 1 of a new fat long term contract?

Most goals scored without ever entering the slot in regulation?
 
A couple of questions—Hagel has the fourth most PP TOI per game for TBL forwards. Why does he have only have 0 goals and 8 assists? He has 3g and 7a on the PK. Hagel PKing is more dangerous than Hagel on the PP.

Why does Protas basically (8s per game) not play on the PP?
Is he maybe getting all these goals off the rush and isn't a good shooter when stationary?
 
Chicago trading Hagel may backfire for them. He really could have helped bedard this year. Also young enough to still be apart of their rebuild longterm.

They underestimated his worth for sure. Still like the Dach and DeBrincat trades in a vacuum, but the players they took (especially Korchinski) might have made those busts too.


Trading Hagel helped make the team bad enough to tank for Bedard, Levshunov, and whoever they get this year along with Moore and Boisvert taken with the actual 1st round picks Tampa gave up.
I think 9/10 Blackhawks fans are happy to see Hagel flourishing in Tampa.
He certainly would not have helped the tank in Chicago.
 
Season (1917-2024)

PlayerPOSSeasonG
MacInnis AlD1993-9428
Pavelski JoeC2023-2427
Sakic JoeC1997-9827
Kunitz ChrisLW2011-1226
Draisaitl LeonC2017-1825
Brunette AndrewLW2009-1025
Stemkowski PeteC1973-7425
Gagne SimonLW2003-0424
Hrdina JanC2001-0224
Simpson CraigLW1991-9224
Nash RickLW2016-1723
Sykora PetrRW2003-0423
Thornton JoeC1999-0023
Housley PhilD1990-9123
McNab PeterC1984-8523
Connelly WayneC1969-7023
Gallagher BrendanRW2019-2022
Beleskey MattLW2014-1522
Williams JustinRW2010-1122
Brunette AndrewLW2008-0922
Booth DavidLW2007-0822
Tanguay AlexLW2006-0722
Thornton JoeC2006-0722
Campbell JimRW1997-9822
Oates AdamC1996-9722
Ciccarelli DinoRW1995-9622
Larionov IgorC1995-9622
Tucker JohnRW1984-8522
Foligno MikeRW1982-8322
Maki WayneLW1971-7222
Watson HarryLW1951-5222
Anderson JoshRW2022-2321
Okposo KyleRW2021-2221
Stephenson ChandlerC2021-2221
Landeskog GabrielLW2019-2021
Tkachuk BradyLW2019-2021
Backstrom NicklasC2017-1821
Ferland MichealLW2017-1821
Tatar TomasLW2015-1621
Duchene MattC2014-1521
Cogliano AndrewC2013-1421
Sutter BrandonC2009-1021
Ekman NisseRW2005-0621
Vermette AntoineC2005-0621
Langkow DaymondC2003-0421
Roenick JeremyC2001-0221
Sullivan SteveLW2001-0221
Scatchard DaveC2000-0121
Marois DanielRW1990-9121
Naslund MatsLW1989-9021
Brown JeffD1988-8921
Mellanby ScottRW1988-8921
Gilmour DougC1984-8521
Larson ReedD1981-8221
Parise J.P.LW1977-7821
Hall MurrayRW1970-7121
Stasiuk VicLW1957-5821
Hall TaylorLW2021-2220
Chimera JasonLW2016-1720
Horvat BoC2016-1720
Anisimov ArtemC2015-1620
Staal JordanC2015-1620
Byfuglien DustinD2010-1120
Parenteau PARW2010-1120
Gionta BrianRW2008-0920
Halpern JeffC2007-0820
Lang RobertC2005-0620
Amonte TonyRW2003-0420
Ribeiro MikeC2003-0420
Arkhipov DenisC2001-0220
Sedin DanielLW2000-0120
Drury ChrisC1999-0020
Jones KeithRW1998-9920
Smyth RyanLW1997-9820
McPhee MikeLW1993-9420
Ricci MikeC1991-9220
Errey BobLW1990-9120
MacTavish CraigC1986-8720
Sutter DuaneRW1985-8620
Hunter DaleC1984-8520
Olczyk EddieRW1984-8520
Lambert LaneRW1983-8420
Steen ThomasC1983-8420
McEwen MikeD1978-7920
Stanfield FredLW1972-7320
Delvecchio AlexC1971-7220
Nevin BobRW1966-6720
DeMarco Sr. AbC1945-4620



Career (1917-2025)

PlayerPOSSeasonsG
Jonsson KennyD1994-0463
Engvall PierreLW2019-2562
Brodin JonasD2012-2558
Norwood LeeD1980-9358
Niinimaa JanneD1996-0654
Sullivan MikeC1991-0254
Quenneville JoelD1978-9154
Thorburn ChrisRW2006-1853
Ceci CodyD2013-2552
Norton JeffD1987-0152
Persson StefanD1977-8652
Larsson AdamD2011-2551
Dobson NoahD2019-2548
Samuelsson KjellD1986-9948
Marsh PeterRW1979-8448
Kampf DavidC2017-2547
Mortson GusD1946-5846
Andersson RasmusD2018-2545
Gilbert TomD2006-1745
Carle MattD2005-1645
White IanD2005-1345
Salei RuslanD1997-1145
Carney KeithD1991-0845
Harbaruk NickRW1969-7445
Seidenberg DennisD2002-1744
Fogolin Jr. LeeD1974-8744
Franson CodyD2009-1843
Price PatD1976-8643
Murphy ConnorD2013-2542
Michalek ZbynekD2003-1642
Hajt BillD1974-8642
Smith JasonD1995-0941
Ray RobRW1989-0441
Haller KevinD1990-0141
Prust BrandonLW2008-1640
Janssens MarkC1989-9940
Wolanin CraigD1985-9640
Morrison JimD1952-7040
Manson JoshD2015-2539
Gusarov AlexeiD1990-0139
Rochefort NormandD1980-9139
Lunde LenC1958-7139
Smith BrendanD2011-2538
Hannan ScottD1999-1538
Johnson RyanC1998-1138
Mair AdamC1999-1138
Snepsts HaroldD1974-9138
Crawford JackD1938-5038
Rouse BobD1984-9837
Racine YvesD1989-9737
Hicks DougD1974-8237
Wilson BertLW1973-8137
Quincey KyleD2006-1736
Regehr RobynD1999-1536
Gill HalD1997-1236
Ward JasonRW1999-0836
Bergevin MarcD1985-0436
Lewis DaveD1973-8736
Hillman LarryD1956-7336
Cole IanD2010-2535
McCabe JakeD2015-2535
Tanev ChrisD2012-2535
Richardson LukeD1987-0835
Tarnstrom DickD2001-0835
Hall MurrayRW1963-7235
Gudbranson ErikD2011-2534
Girard SamuelD2017-2534
Klefbom OscarD2013-2034
Colaiacovo CarloD2005-1634
Boynton NickD2001-1134
Karpovtsev AlexanderD1993-0334
Musil FrantisekD1986-9834
Finn StevenD1986-9734
Peters GarryC1965-7134
Steckel DavidC2007-1333
Malik MarekD1996-0833
Rautakallio PekkaD1979-8233
Barabanov AlexanderLW2020-2432
Graves RyanD2018-2532
McNabb BraydenD2011-2532
Nordstrom JoakimC2013-2132
Weal JordanC2016-2032
Bouillon FrancisD1999-1432
Fedoruk ToddLW2000-1032
Perrin EricC2006-0932
White RyanC2010-1731
O'Donnell SeanD1995-1131
Kearns DennisD1971-8131
Awrey DonD1963-7931
O'Brien DennisD1970-7931
Gunnarsson CarlD2009-2030
Schultz NickD2001-1630
Lefebvre SylvainD1989-0130
Ladouceur RandyD1983-9630
Trimper TimLW1979-8530
Carlson JackLW1978-8430
It's hard to believe that some of those guys went a full season without a multi-goal game (Sakic, Draisaitl, Gagne, Pavelski).
 
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