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Pre-Game Talk: Habs Training Camp

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I REALLY wish that Emil Lundberg was invited. I still think we should have used our 7th rounder on him. Big kid that has decent numbers in the SEL.
 
Switched it to Pre-Game Talk.. figured it was before our first game. :laugh:

Anyway, Commodore may get invited, but he won't make the team. Not a chance.

1. Gorges
2. Subban
3. Markov
4. Emelin
5. Diaz
6. Kaberle
7. Weber
8. Bouillon
9. St-Denis

All better options than Commodore.
 
As I wrote in one of the other threads, Commodore could barely keep up in the AHL. He will be in the first wave of cuts. Yes, in theory, we need that type of rugged D, but he's done.
 
I don't see anyway that Commodore would make the team. Habs already have a massive logjam at the bottom pairing section.
 
Richiebottles said:
I would trade him to the Islanders. A 2nd round pick for him would be fair plus he would form a great pair with Streit.
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We are not getting a 2nd for Weber but the Islanders would be a great trading partner since they now have Visnovsky who isn't going to Long Island. I'd be happy with a 3rd which is like a late 2nd when dealing with the Islanders
 
Marc the Habs Fan said:
As I wrote in one of the other threads, Commodore could barely keep up in the AHL. He will be in the first wave of cuts. Yes, in theory, we need that type of rugged D, but he's done.
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Didn't watch any Bulldogs game since october... thank you for the update. He'll be back in Hamilton then. He can help Tinordi, Beaulieu etc with his NHL exp.
 
Tuggy said:
I don't see anyway that Commodore would make the team. Habs already have a massive logjam at the bottom pairing section.
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Agreed, 8 guys are ahead of him as we speak IMO but then again Bergevin can always move one and this is also considering a deal for Subban is done in time

Subban-Gorges
Markov-Emelin
Kaberle-Bouillon
Diaz-Weber
 
HawkeyeCB said:
Switched it to Pre-Game Talk.. figured it was before our first game. :laugh:

Anyway, Commodore may get invited, but he won't make the team. Not a chance.

1. Gorges
2. Subban
3. Markov
4. Emelin
5. Diaz
6. Kaberle
7. Weber
8. Bouillon
9. St-Denis

All better options than Commodore.
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True.
 
ClasslessGuy said:
Didn't watch any Bulldogs game since october... thank you for the update. He'll be back in Hamilton then. He can help Tinordi, Beaulieu etc with his NHL exp.
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He might not even be back down there. They only signed him once Pateryn went down with an injury and Pateryn is healthy now, he was skating with the team at practice yesterday.

As for who will be at camp from the Bulldogs. I don't think it matters a ton because there are few spots available, but I really really really hope Leblanc is not brought up. The media will freakout because most of them don't watch Bulldogs games, but it's the right thing to do right now. Let him work on his game down there far away from the media spotlight.
 
HawkeyeCB said:
Switched it to Pre-Game Talk.. figured it was before our first game. :laugh:

Anyway, Commodore may get invited, but he won't make the team. Not a chance.

1. Gorges
2. Subban
3. Markov
4. Emelin
5. Diaz
6. Kaberle
7. Weber
8. Bouillon
9. St-Denis

All better options than Commodore.
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Are they in order for you? if yes don't you think that Bouillon is better then both Weber and Kaberle after watchin him in the playoff last year?
 
EveryDay said:
Are they in order for you? if yes don't you think that Bouillon is better then both Weber and Kaberle after watchin him in the playoff last year?
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No they aren't really in order. Or I'd have St-Denis in the Top-6 cause he's my man-crush this year. :laugh:

Kaberle gets a lot of hate here, but he's not THAT bad. Him and Bouillon are about equal in my eyes.

Weber still has potential, but I have no idea if he'll ever reach it. He was incredible for a short stretch of about 10-games last year (or was it the year before?), then just terrible the rest of the way.

As for playoffs. If we're judging on that alone, Weber has been incredible in the playoffs (6 games, 3 goals, 1 assist, +1).

The top-5 is true though. Subban, Gorges, Markov, Emelin and Diaz.

After that, it's really a choose what you want. Scoring yet soft? Kaberle. Maybe scoring, not quite as soft, just as bad defensively? Weber. Solid 2-way game, but not quite strong enough physically? St-Denis. Physical and solid defensively, absolutely zero scoring? Bouillon.
 
A lot of people on this boards are against Kaberle but on the third pair with Bouillon or ? and on the PP he could/will be useful until next summer
 
Richiebottles said:
I would trade him to the Islanders. A 2nd round pick for him would be fair plus he would form a great pair with Streit.
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Besides not being good value for a 2nd rounder, he would make a horrible pair with Streit.

Just because they are from the same country of origin, does not make them a good pair. Streit is arguably a top pair D in NY, going up against the top line in opposing teams. Is Weber?

Could Weber complement the lack of size of Streit vs the bigger forwards in other teams?


Streit, a proven NHL asset. Weber, a pipe dream, a wishful thinking-echo of Streit.

Your idea would be great for the Habs, and a disaster for the NYI. They would have to fall on their heads and be dazed to make that deal.
 
Joe Cole said:
Besides not being good value for a 2nd rounder, he would make a horrible pair with Streit.

Just because they are from the same country of origin, does not make them a good pair. Streit is arguably a top pair D in NY, going up against the top line in opposing teams. Is Weber?

Could Weber complement the lack of size of Streit vs the bigger forwards in other teams?


Streit, a proven NHL asset. Weber, a pipe dream, a wishful thinking-echo of Streit.

Your idea would be great for the Habs, and a disaster for the NYI. They would have to fall on their heads and be dazed to make that deal.
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With ice-time, Weber is a 30-35 point defenseman, at least. I believe he had the best production rate on the team (defense) last year, maybe except Kaberle.

Problem is if he can figure out a way to keep up defensively.
 
HawkeyeCB said:
No they aren't really in order. Or I'd have St-Denis in the Top-6 cause he's my man-crush this year. :laugh:

Kaberle gets a lot of hate here, but he's not THAT bad. Him and Bouillon are about equal in my eyes.

Weber still has potential, but I have no idea if he'll ever reach it. He was incredible for a short stretch of about 10-games last year (or was it the year before?), then just terrible the rest of the way.

As for playoffs. If we're judging on that alone, Weber has been incredible in the playoffs (6 games, 3 goals, 1 assist, +1).

The top-5 is true though. Subban, Gorges, Markov, Emelin and Diaz.

After that, it's really a choose what you want. Scoring yet soft? Kaberle. Maybe scoring, not quite as soft, just as bad defensively? Weber. Solid 2-way game, but not quite strong enough physically? St-Denis. Physical and solid defensively, absolutely zero scoring? Bouillon.
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Agree with everything you said and i think that we should send one of Kaberle or Weber to Ottawa for a draft pick. Sens have only 4 healthy defenceman for the reminder of the year(Gonchar-Phillips-Karlsson-Methot). Weber and Kaberle are better then Benoit-Weircoch(?)-Gryba-Blood.
 
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