Value of: Habs Trade Into Top 10

[Frank Drebin]

Not on this draft.

oh ok

 

[Habsrule]

McQueen is 100% in the convo. as well... I'd trade up for him... Maybe Lankovic and Smith as well.

That is a solid top 9 to me. Afterwards it is more murky.

McQueen is 100% in that tier of prospects. Problem is with his back injuries this year a bunch of teams will be scared off from him.

That’s why I didn’t include him.

 

[fbuford]

Hi Everyone, any teams willing to trade out from the 8-10 spot for Habs 16th and 17th picks and a sweetener like Pittsburgh's 2nd or a B prospect like Roy / Farrell / Mesar

Why are you asking as if you are the GM and other people on here have authority over these NHL teams?

It's just funny because these are minute details that likely wouldn't effect a team.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Not worth it.

The draft from 8th to pretty much the end of the 1st round is all similar talent.

 

[Satanphonehome]

I don’t think the value is off at all.

The question is finding a team with a draft board tiered in such a way that’s attractive to them.

Such a boom or bust potential.

Imagine trading a chance at Quinn Hughes for Martin Kaut and Ty Smith.

Imagine trading Robert Thomas and Josh Norris for Lias Andersson

 

[malcb33]

I don’t think the value is off at all.
The question is finding a team with a draft board tiered in such a way that’s attractive to them.
Such a boom or bust potential.

Imagine trading a chance at Quinn Hughes for Martin Kaut and Ty Smith.

Agree with the first part of your post. The bolded doesn't really make sense to me though.

Schaefer is the only player I see with Quinn Hughes like talent, and no one is talking about trading for 1OA. Also, it would be assumed that the trade would happen after the lottery, so teams know where they are picking already.

 

[Satanphonehome]

Agree with the first part of your post. The bolded doesn't really make sense to me though.

Schaefer is the only player I see with Quinn Hughes like talent, and no one is talking about trading for 1OA. Also, it would be assumed that the trade would happen after the lottery, so teams know where they are picking already.

In 2018, Hughes was picked with #7. Kaut and Smith were 16 and 17.
That's the best case scenario for Montreal, and the worst for the team they traded with.

The 2017 Andersson example was to show the flipside, although in that case Norris and Thomas went 19/20. It was just an easier way to show the other extreme.

 

[5cotland]

oh ok

The fall off in quality after 1-5 is quite big compared to 6-10.

But after 10 it really is a major fall off. You would be more beneficial to get a top 10 pick over two late teen picks.

 

[Anardil]

Enough with the trading up and enough with the prospects. Its time to trade assets for youngish guys to help now.

Just like for Dach & Newhook, right?. No thanks for me. IMHO, they should trade the picks for someone more established, and if that doesn't work, then use the picks. You can never have enough prospects.

 

[HuGo Sham]

No snark intended, just no one here has the ability to make a trade. Or do they

You’re correct, my proposal is literal and I believe I’m a GM who makes trade decisions

Why are you asking as if you are the GM and other people on here have authority over these NHL teams?

It's just funny because these are minute details that likely wouldn't affect a team.

congrats . You’re the second literalist in the thread. Next time I’ll pretend not to be a real GM

 

[SI90]

From Islanders I’d definitely do that deal if one of my guys was off the board at 10.

 

[fbuford]

You’re correct, my proposal is literal and I believe I’m a GM who makes trade decisions

congrats . You’re the second literalist in the thread. Next time I’ll pretend not to be a real GM

It's just the way you phrased it, as if you have the power to make trades, and someone else in here has aswell.

 

[fbuford]

From Islanders I’d definitely do that deal if one of my guys was off the board at 10.

I'm sure the Islanders scouting organization will take, your "guy" into real consideration.

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

I'm intrigued by the idea of trading #9 for #16, #17, and #41.

Habs woudlnt need to add a 2nd both our 1sts would be enough for #9

 

[HuGo Sham]

It's just the way you phrased it, as if you have the power to make trades, and someone else in here has aswell.

I did it deliberately for a laugh Now back to the proposal

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

16 and 17 is worth more than 10 easily.

San Jose traded pick 14 and 42 last season for pick 11. That was in a much better draft as well.

Also the habs will want to acquire a top 6 center this summer, so they probably use one of these picks to get one.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Habs woudlnt need to add a 2nd both our 1sts would be enough for #9

it would more likely be 16,17 for 9 + 2nd and even then, thats not enough. 16 and 17 are very good picks.

Guhle/Reichel vs Perfetti
Newhook/Krebs vs Zegras
Kaut/Smith vs Kravtsov
Valamaki/Lilegren vs Rasmussen
Chychrun/Fabbro vs Sergachev
Barzal/Connor vs Meier
Milano/Sanheim vs Ehlers
Zadorov/Lazar vs Horvat
Wilson/Hertl vs Trouba

IDK, which years really benefit having a single, higher pick?

 

[Garbageyuk]

Yes, I’m a NHL GM. Thank god you’ve asked me.

Colloquialism.

 

[landy]

Im guessing Sabres 7th is available for an unreasonable ask.

 

[T_Cage]

I'd do it, but I also dont see anyone likely there at 10 I like any better than 16 (some may disagree)

I might wait until draft day to make sure a surprise doesn't fall, and if that means I have to settle for something like just 16+17 instead it's worth it to hedge my bets. This feels more like a "get more shots at the dart board to find a sleeper" draft than a talent draft after the first few picks

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

it would more likely be 16,17 for 9 + 2nd and even then, thats not enough. 16 and 17 are very good picks.

Guhle/Reichel vs Perfetti
Newhook/Krebs vs Zegras
Kaut/Smith vs Kravtsov
Valamaki/Lilegren vs Rasmussen
Chychrun/Fabbro vs Sergachev
Barzal/Connor vs Meier
Milano/Sanheim vs Ehlers
Zadorov/Lazar vs Horvat
Wilson/Hertl vs Trouba

IDK, which years really benefit having a single, higher pick?

i would do it i think we have enough depth we need elite talent and picking in the top 10 gives us a higher chance at it

 

[The Don Hughes]

I'd do it to move up for guys like Desnoyers, Mrtka and maybe Bear.
We need either a Lefty 2C or a RD.

 

[Frank Drebin]

i would do it i think we have enough depth we need elite talent and picking in the top 10 gives us a higher chance at it

i dont see any elite talent drafted over the past 9 years at any of those spots.

 

[SI90]

I'm sure the Islanders scouting organization will take, your "guy" into real consideration.

All jokes aside I’ve had a pretty good track record. Not all my guys have worked out but we needed drafting guys I really wanted and were on my lists.
Proof is in draft threads over the years before the drafts.

 

[malcb33]

The problem with this approach is that I personally don't see anyone in the 7-10 range being able to step in as a 2C on a team that wants to make the playoffs. I think whoever they pick is likely around the same level as Hage, and likely isn't able to contribute for another 2-3 years.

I understand the trade options for a 2C are slim and the Habs probably don't want to overpay for someone who doesn't check all the boxes, but I am not sure drafting another C fits the competitive timeline either.