Proposal: Habs & Rangers

[Lockin17]

Habs : Caufield + Chariot (resigned) + Gallagher @ 4mil + Struble/Ylonen
for
Rangers : Lafreniere + 2rd (blues)

Gives a chance to the Rangers to go far in the playoff while getting a great prospect with Caufield.

I see Gally playing with Strome on the second line while Caufield take over Lafreniere on the 3rd line.
Then Chariot plays with Trouba,, that line would be nasty.

Habs gets their savior ;-)

Click to read more...

 

[Rangeri]

No

 

[bl02]

No thanks. Love the type of player Gally was but unfortunately wouldn’t touch him. Rangers need to stay the course and not take any shortcuts especially this type of trade

 

[Lockin17]

No

what more would it take ?

 

[Rangeri]

what more would it take ?

Sorry to put this bluntly, but you have almost nothing that should interest Rangers. We are first in Metro. We have everything except capspace. And Laf gives us even that.

 

[mm11]

good proposal. Think Laf had 5 tap in goals this year. Seems like good value for the rangers. They appear to be a team ready to win now, so might as well go for it. Can Panarin, Fox and Igor play any better when it matters most? Caufield can easily replace any numbers Laf can put up in their system

 

[Tob]

This is a bit all over the place. The Rangers very last need is to add a defenseman let alone one that will need a raise next year. They have a very serviceable Nemeth that will need to be moved as early as next season. Gallagher has 6 years left, even at $4M that's a massive problem for a cap strapped team with bunch of players to pay and raises next year. He's a declining player. You've complicated a Caufield/Lafreniere deal with a toaster oven, a sewing kit, and a lost puppy.

 

[Tob]

good proposal. Think Laf had 5 tap in goals this year. Seems like good value for the rangers. They appear to be a team ready to win now, so might as well go for it. Can Panarin, Fox and Igor play any better when it matters most? Caufield can easily replace any numbers Laf can put up in their system

Gallagher and Chiarot doesn't put any team over the top, especially on massive contract terms. Those two adds would block an already log jam of D prospects ready to make the jump next season in Zac Jones and Braden Schneider. Gallagher's contract is a massive liability. At 29 he's already hit a wall. Does a contending team add a contract like that for 6 years? Seems like they would want to dump an underperforming ~$5M contract like the lightning have been trying to do with Tyler Johnson for a few years and managed it only because Bowman is an idiot.

75% of "The Rangers should do it because they're ready to compete" ignores cap, prospects, and current roster construction in favor of average to above average players that will cost cap flexibility and the pipeline.

I swear most posters are doing it on purpose to rob the Rangers of Schneider and Kravtsov and Lafreniere and Kakko (a la Eichel) so they'd shoot themselves in the foot by, for example, taking on 6 years of Gallagher and X years of Chiarot and be forced to dump their young defensemen.

 

[mm11]

This is a bit all over the place. The Rangers very last need is to add a defenseman let alone one that will need a raise next year. They have a very serviceable Nemeth that will need to be moved as early as next season. Gallagher has 6 years left, even at $4M that's a massive problem for a cap strapped team with bunch of players to pay and raises next year. He's a declining player. You've complicated a Caufield/Lafreniere deal with a toaster oven, a sewing kit, and a lost puppy.

Gallagher is a guy one would think would pay out dividends immediately, as in this year or next. Especially come spring time when games get tight checking. Sounds like a guy the rangers brass would covet. Deal with the cap stuff at another time. Then add Caufield to replace the sprinkles Laf is putting in and a solid solid playoff proven d-man in Chariot? Stove stop I'm staying!

 

[CanadienShark]

Scrap it. Rangers wouldn't do this.

 

[CanadienShark]

Gallagher and Chiarot doesn't put any team over the top, especially on massive contract terms. Those two adds would block an already log jam of D prospects ready to make the jump next season in Zac Jones and Braden Schneider. Gallagher's contract is a massive liability. At 29 he's already hit a wall. Does a contending team add a contract like that for 6 years? Seems like they would want to dump an underperforming ~$5M contract like the lightning have been trying to do with Tyler Johnson for a few years and managed it only because Bowman is an idiot.

75% of "The Rangers should do it because they're ready to compete" ignores cap, prospects, and current roster construction in favor of average to above average players that will cost cap flexibility and the pipeline.

I swear most posters are doing it on purpose to rob the Rangers of Schneider and Kravtsov and Lafreniere and Kakko (a la Eichel) so they'd shoot themselves in the foot by, for example, taking on 6 years of Gallagher and X years of Chiarot and be forced to dump their young defensemen.

I love how you describe both a player locked up long term and an impending UFA as not being able to help with that term. What term are you looking for lol?

You only want players with 2-3 years?

 

[Tob]

Gallagher is a guy one would think would pay out dividends immediately, as in this year or next. Especially come spring time when games get tight checking. Sounds like a guy the rangers brass would covet. Deal with the cap stuff at another time. Then add Caufield to replace the sprinkles Laf is putting in and a solid solid playoff proven d-man in Chariot? Stove stop I'm staying!

Gallagher could definitely help in the top 9 this year and the next but the other 4 years? When Lafreniere (or Caufield) and Chytil, maybe Kravtsov, Kakko, Schneider, K.A Miller/Zac Jones/Lundkvist need raises, that will be a tough contract to move similar to Tyler Johnson's.

Plus next year when Fox, Mika, Strome get raises, the Rangers are already 100% capped out and would likely need to move Nemeth to clear a spot and cap for 1 of the 2 D in Hartford.

Gallagher would force Strome out. No chance the Rangers (and Panarin) would choose Gallagher over Strome.

 

[Tob]

I love how you describe both a player locked up long term and an impending UFA as not being able to help with that term. What term are you looking for lol?

You only want players with 2-3 years?

Isn't the OP for a re-signed or extended Chiarot? Chiarot with a raise is redundant for the Rangers while Gallagher's 6 year contract even with retention is also a problem as soon as this offseason.

 

[cwede]

Laf not available,
he is future NYR captain,

Re this package, NYR have guys who do Gallagher,
They don't need Chiarot resigned, only maybe as rental
Dont need Struble w Miller, Lindgren, Jones, Robertson as young LD,
Ylonen is just Pajuniemi w fewer prewaiver years

Despite NYR record, too soon to make deep contender deals
Their great record is more because they've become 'hard to beat" than "really really good"

 

[CanadienShark]

Isn't the OP for a re-signed or extended Chiarot? Chiarot with a raise is redundant for the Rangers while Gallagher's 6 year contract even with retention is also a problem as soon as this offseason.

Ah ok, that would make sense then if Chiarot were extended long term.

 

[mm11]

Gallagher could definitely help in the top 9 this year and the next but the other 4 years? When Lafreniere (or Caufield) and Chytil, maybe Kravtsov, Kakko, Schneider, K.A Miller/Zac Jones/Lundkvist need raises, that will be a tough contract to move similar to Tyler Johnson's.

Plus next year when Fox, Mika, Strome get raises, the Rangers are already 100% capped out and would likely need to move Nemeth to clear a spot and cap for 1 of the 2 D in Hartford.

Gallagher would force Strome out. No chance the Rangers (and Panarin) would choose Gallagher over Strome.

since when did the rangers have problems buying out contracts and eating stuff along the way? Also, yeesh worrying about Chytil to not put playoff warrior pieces in the lineup? Lundkvist? really?

 

[IDvsEGO]

Sorry to put this bluntly, but you have almost nothing that should interest Rangers. We are first in Metro. We have everything except capspace. And Laf gives us even that.

Id say the only thing the canadians have that would interest us would be something like 50% of suzuki (the future contract) + caufield.

 

[KevSkillz4]

Both teams say no.

I'd rather have to keep Caufield, he have all tools to become a pretty good player and trade Chiarot for picks. Gallagher too at 4,5 can be tradeable.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Habs : Caufield + Chariot (resigned) + Gallagher @ 4mil + Struble/Ylonen
for
Rangers : Lafreniere + 2rd (blues)

Gives a chance to the Rangers to go far in the playoff while getting a great prospect with Caufield.

I see Gally playing with Strome on the second line while Caufield take over Lafreniere on the 3rd line.
Then Chariot plays with Trouba,, that line would be nasty.

Habs gets their savior ;-)

You go to box. Two minutes by yourself. Feel shame.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

what more would it take ?

More of what the Rangers need. Chariot and Gallagher really don't do much .

 

[Tob]

since when did the rangers have problems buying out contracts and eating stuff along the way? Also, yeesh worrying about Chytil to not put playoff warrior pieces in the lineup? Lundkvist? really?

If the Rangers have to buyout a contract would not be a good starting condition to take on Gallagher. I don't expect all the young D to work out but a few of them will and management will want to lock a few up long term within the next 3-4 years.

 

[FireGerardGallant]

Enough with these dumbass Laf proposals hes not going anywhere

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

Thats absolutely horrible for the habs

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Thats absolutely horrible for the habs

If that's what it takes to make it go away, OK.

 

[MisterT]

Thats absolutely horrible for the habs

And even worse for the Rangers