Post-Game Talk: Habs beat the Avs in shootout | 2-1

Redux91

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I said I didn't want to trade "this Armia" the back half of last season it's an even stronger sentiment right now.
Evans and Armia are good problems to have for sure.
The problems are Gallagher and Anderson as roster spots AND salaries unfortunately
They aren't having bad years by any means, no

BUT their very existences and contract lengths make it so that next year
The team still has Anderson and Gallagher but NO Evans or Armia

And I just dont see how people would think we'll be a better team next year if this happened..

In a perfect world, you keep Evans and Armia as perfect bottom6ers and PKers to reasonable deals and get rid of the seemingly un-get-riddable Anderson and Gallagher contracts..
But alas, easier said than done
Thanks Bergy.

It's such an unfair conundrum for us lol
2 players you need to get rid of AND are overpaid, but can't do it
While we can lose 2 players we actually need for nothing and are currently underpaid (or paid fairly) lol
Sigh
 

dackelljuneaubulis02

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The problems are Gallagher and Anderson as roster spots AND salaries unfortunately
They aren't having bad years by any means, no

BUT their very existences and contract lengths make it so that next year
The team still has Anderson and Gallagher but NO Evans or Armia

And I just dont see how people would think we'll be a better team next year if this happened..

In a perfect world, you keep Evans and Armia as perfect bottom6ers and PKers to reasonable deals and get rid of the seemingly un-get-riddable Anderson and Gallagher contracts..
But alas, easier said than done
Thanks Bergy.

It's such an unfair conundrum for us lol
2 players you need to get rid of AND are overpaid, but can't do it
While we can lose 2 players we actually need for nothing and are currently underpaid (or paid fairly) lol
Sigh
Hopefully we can keep them somehow. Definitely want to keep Anderson at a pay cut. Gallagher can go. No hate and he’s playing well but I think he can be replaced internally
 

dcyhabs

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The problems are Gallagher and Anderson as roster spots AND salaries unfortunately
They aren't having bad years by any means, no

BUT their very existences and contract lengths make it so that next year
The team still has Anderson and Gallagher but NO Evans or Armia

And I just dont see how people would think we'll be a better team next year if this happened..

In a perfect world, you keep Evans and Armia as perfect bottom6ers and PKers to reasonable deals and get rid of the seemingly un-get-riddable Anderson and Gallagher contracts..
But alas, easier said than done
Thanks Bergy.

It's such an unfair conundrum for us lol
2 players you need to get rid of AND are overpaid, but can't do it
While we can lose 2 players we actually need for nothing and are currently underpaid (or paid fairly) lol
Sigh
All of them are pretty OK. A lot of the issues with Armia and Anderson were that the team didn't have the players to be able to compete. Adding Laine and Carrier added an offensive threat and a defensive D that they really needed. Dvorak doesn't fit well, and replacing him will help.

The habs need some depth, because they look much worse without Laine and any of the top 4 D, and they need a #1 D, or at least another definite top 4 RHD who can play defence. It would be nice to replace Gallagher, he's not the player he was and he's old enough that he's likely to have more declines, plus he's yet another small guy even if he's strong and feisty.

Anderson will probably slow down but now that he's playing good D he's a positive for the team. If they let Armia go they'll need another big guy who can play on the boards to replace him, something they don't have in their system. It's probably not a gain.

Switching out Dvorak for Beck should be a win, though there may be growing pains. Switching out Savard or Struble for a better D, not necessarily an easy thing to do, would also help. It's not like there are a bunch of people they need to bring up. Mailloux isn't looking like an NHLer, Roy has been good, but not great, Engstrom and Trudeau are fine, but not likely to be better than available options, at least not yet. Davidson is fine, but not exactly pushing for a promotion. Xhekaj and Tuch may make it eventually, but probably not this year, maybe next for Tuch.

They've shown they can beat good teams with the current lineup, and it's a good thing considering that once they add Demidov and Beck they won't have many major prospects. Last night's game was good, but also pretty fortunate, the Avs had a bunch of good chances, and Dobes did well keeping his body in the way. Dobes is probably on a high from his promotion and won't sustain his current level of success. The habs don't have the depth, now, to play without Savard and Laine. With Laine in the lineup the offence is sufficient. If they can't re-sign Evans and Armia the bottom 6 will be worse, but we'll see what Demidov can do to compensate.
 

MTL Dirty Birdy

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You’re speaking over each other a bit.

Carrier is not a particularly good player. He is better than Barron and Savard. His acquisition pushed Barron out of the lineup but also slotted Carrier above Savard and pushed Savard to Barron’s old TOI role, to which Savard is better suited. Is Carrier a special player? No, but he is better than Savard and he fits better too.

Primeau’s replacement turned out to be better than Primeau and in competition with Monty — so the same effect as above.

Struble is the next marginal player to need improvement/replacement. If the player that pushes Struble out of the roster then competes with Xhekaj, Savard, and Carrier, we’ll enjoy the same effect.
I’d say Carrier is simply the RD we needed
 
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Matheson takes alot of criticism on this board but last night he played one of his best games that I can remember. 28 minutes of mistake free hockey against guys like Mackinnon and Rantanen...
Doesn’t mean he should be playing 28 minutes and playing mistake-free is not what usually happens when he does. He tends to get brain cramps when overused but, it’s difficult to bring this up now, cause the team’s on a great run.

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'this is why we can't have nice things'


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Rapala

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This is why we can’t have nice things.



Leave well enough alone, this is prime clickbait BS. :eyeroll:

Yeah 1A-1B is an optimistic take as it is. Number One WTF is wrong with these people.
I could see him being given the reins in a seven game series but we'd have to see him help get us there first.
This is not a Binnington situation with Monty still playing well.
 

Rapala

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Doesn’t mean he should be playing 28 minutes and playing mistake-free is not what usually happens when he does. He tends to get brain cramps when overused but, it’s difficult to bring this up now, cause the team’s on a great run.


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The one thing I've noticed about Matheson is whenever he's been given a task his concentration seems to be more focused.
There is no doubt in my mind he is playing better hockey on that right side for this reason alone.
The lapses will never completely disappear but cutting down on the disasters of him trying to be superman all the time make a difference.
Thank You Lane Hutson.
 
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Rapala

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Matheson takes alot of criticism on this board but last night he played one of his best games that I can remember. 28 minutes of mistake free hockey against guys like Mackinnon and Rantanen...
I haven't criticized him hardly at all this season but last season I might have led the charge. :laugh:
Watching him play this way is exactly the reason I did it. "Focus Daniel"

I might have have shown some scorn on the PP earlier this season but that was Lane Hutson's fault. :sarcasm:
 
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Rapala

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Doesn’t mean he should be playing 28 minutes and playing mistake-free is not what usually happens when he does. He tends to get brain cramps when overused but, it’s difficult to bring this up now, cause the team’s on a great run.


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His minutes were down to around twenty when Savard was healthy.
We are lucky he can actually play those minutes when called upon hopefully it isn't too often.
It's funny how two seasons ago we were wondering why the veteran wasn't forced to play RD over Guhle.
Thinking back it would probably have been an unmitigated disaster given they type of game he was playing at the time. o_O
 

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