Value of: Habs 2 x 1sts 2025 + Jordan Harris/Jayden Struble
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Djp
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That acquired pick in the 1st is complicated. It should get all the scenarios such as acquiring other MTL picks
Montreal will finish bottom 5-10 in the league again so they would be fools to move their 1st right now.
Watch Ottawa and learn from their mistakes.
Rebuild is far from over.
Watch Ottawa and learn from their mistakes.
Rebuild is far from over.
HockeyVirus
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Montreal isn't a PO team. Plus, their main issue right now is whether any of their D prospects show enough to truly be written down in Ink moving forward in the lineup card. That's the goal for the season for the coaching staff. Habs are going nowhere unless a couple of guys on the D step up to show that they are legit NHL calibre Dmen.
Everyone is untouchable just like the Habs middling prospects. Sorry.
The Great Weal
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Unless we are getting a young established top line forward or top line dman, we aren't trading our 1st.
Habs window isn't close to being open. I know the Habs organization likes throwing their young player to the wolves and expect them to be stars right off the bat but that isn't how it works.
They might even be worse next season,
They lost
-Kovacevic
-Allen
-Monahan
Monahan had a good season and isn't easily replaced
Is Primeau ready for full time backup duties?
Is one of the defense rookies going to step in and easily take over Kovacevic's role?
Honestly the Hab's "Window" is probably opens two seasons from now.
They might even be worse next season,
They lost
-Kovacevic
-Allen
-Monahan
Monahan had a good season and isn't easily replaced
Is Primeau ready for full time backup duties?
Is one of the defense rookies going to step in and easily take over Kovacevic's role?
Honestly the Hab's "Window" is probably opens two seasons from now.
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Nico Cauzuki
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If they are worse, it's definitely not because of the lost of those players. Kova was already the odd man out at the end of the season. Allen sucked all year. Monahan should be replaced easily by a healthy Dach and Newhook. If their key players don't regress and are injury free, they should be a little bit better.
Dear Habs fans, if you want to move Strubble/Harris because the blue line is full, please make a thread with them on their own, instead of a million nonsense packages. There are teams that need bottom pair left dmen and can offer a pick. Although at this point everyone is probably too annoyed and will want to offer nothing. Av's might need someone once one of their Dmen gets injured (it will happen.)
Many of my fellow Habs fans need to understand something: Harris and Struble aren’t worth anything. Players of this calibre or better can be acquired at any time via waivers or free agency without having to give up assets. That reduces their value to nothing.
tbcwpg
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Depends.
Adding another young LD for the Jets creates new problems, ie. the left has Morrissey, Samberg, Stanley and Heinola right now. Adding Harris, for example, means at least one of those guys is playing in the minors, likely Heinola which creates its own issues as he's not waiver exempt anymore.
The 2 Habs Dmen being offered have zero value i thought my post made that clear?
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They don't have zero value. They don't have big value, but you're nuts if you think we couldn't get something for either of them.
tbcwpg
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They are borderline 6-7th Dmen on one of the worst teams in the league they have very little value, no team is trading for the Hbs first 2 draft picks in 25 and saying one or both of these players have to be included or there is no deal, it's the reality of their value which is slight.
Sure but to be clear it would be the first 2 draft picks and they have 2 players of value that they want to move although that being said they are also a playoff team and in the real world it's doubt full they actually make this trade just that there would be some value there.
Yes it is clear you have no idea of player value. On their own they won't garner much but as an an add on in a bigger trade to a team that needs depth on defense they have value.
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It's false though. They're not worth much but they're both NHLers relatively young with potential. There's zero chance they couldn't return a late pick in my opinion. We've traded far worse players for something.
When Harris and Struble are included in just about every MTL fans trade idea, other teams think that they are players that they want to dump, and therefore have no value. Maybe mix it up a bit, and add Gallagher and Anderson?
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It's important not to confuse random speculation on an Internet board with negotiations between NHL GMs. I know it's tricky. I get 'em mixed up all the time.When Harris and Struble are included in just about every MTL fans trade idea, other teams think that they are players that they want to dump, and therefore have no value. Maybe mix it up a bit, and add Gallagher and Anderson?
The Great Weal
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I get that Harris/Struble are spammed nonstop in proposals, but the real value is our 1st in this proposal. Habs could very well be a bottom 5 team, likely bottom 10 team. Not to mention there's a late 1st in here as well. It's hardly garbage.When Harris and Struble are included in just about every MTL fans trade idea, other teams think that they are players that they want to dump, and therefore have no value. Maybe mix it up a bit, and add Gallagher and Anderson?
