Value of: Habs 2 x 1sts 2025 + Jordan Harris/Jayden Struble
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Will say it’s probably hard to determine without knowing where the picks will finish. Goes for both sides.
Superlative Soup
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Has anyone suggested Zegras to the Habs before?
Agreed. As of right now though. What is that value, factoring in risk of the unkown.
Likely the teams that would be willing to move their top 6 forward, won't be offering the high-calibre player you are after.
The rebuilding teams don't have the player, the playoff teams won't want to give up the player unless they are stuck for cap and the middle teams are in the same spot.
Maybe Ehlers or Barbashev if not the obvious ones on Cirelli, Necas etc. The Jets would likely want a player who might replace some of Ehlers' production though. Vegas could have Barbashev available based on their cap situation but he has a M-NTC so could cause an issue.
The rebuilding teams don't have the player, the playoff teams won't want to give up the player unless they are stuck for cap and the middle teams are in the same spot.
Maybe Ehlers or Barbashev if not the obvious ones on Cirelli, Necas etc. The Jets would likely want a player who might replace some of Ehlers' production though. Vegas could have Barbashev available based on their cap situation but he has a M-NTC so could cause an issue.
Im purposefully avoiding asking for anyone, that never ends well. Just putting together a package and asking for feedback from other fanbases on what they would offer for that.
Arthur Morgan
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seems like a bad strategy. retool for another couple years, let your kids develop and use your 1sts. dont try to rush it. or go ahead. MTL fast tracking it is fine with me
HabsQC
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Damn for that package we could probably get something in the range of Halak, Ryder ans a 2nd 
The Gr8 Dane
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For funsies.....we do.
Nothing is off limits. Let's see what returns this would generate before poo-pooing it.
You must be new here because unless you were new, you'd know that you will never get a deal that will meet your expectations and it will just turn in to a conversation of "my asset is amazing and yours is shit so you're an idiot for offering/asking for that".
Agreed.....unless of course, said package returned a player that would be likely to transcend what this picks could become.
I completely expect this outcome. Im trying not to start it. This isn't a thread about should we do this, or should we do that. It is simply a value of thread. A guy can't even have his curiosity scratched without the usual shouting down.
General Fanager
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That is 2 years away. There is no need at all to rush it with a deal like this. Just play J Roy on the 2nd line and see how it goes. If it doesnt work then try another young guy, or use Anderson or Gally there.
A few of the Dmen will be moved or The Habs will lose them on waivers but still, No to dealing the picks.
Speeding things up is how they got into this mess. Just be patient.
General Fanager
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Others have already explained. Its not as much as Habs fans expect and more than others teams fans will admit.
Harris or Struble are good but nothing more and 5-6 guys who are young. Maybe one of them grows into a decent 4-5 guy.
The real value is in the 2 picks. 1 is likely to be the Fla pick so that's a really late 1st and The Habs one is likely to be a lottery pick.
The value seems to be close to or even better than the Hertl, Guentzel deals....so I guess someone like that with a long deal already in place or negotiated before hand by The Habs.
BLNY
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I think the better strategy is to take those picks and try to move up in the draft to get a player you might be able to plug in faster. Obviously, this move doesn't happen until the 2025 draft.
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Since we're about to finish in the bottom 5 yet again this year, I think that the 2025 Habs 1st OA should be off the table
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Right now we have Suzuki, Slaf, Caufield, Dach, and Demidov penciled in as our long term top6, leaving an open spot at 2LW. It makes way more sense to play out the season and see if one of Newhook or Roy can fill that spot than to make a trade now. At the end of the year we will have 12M coming off the books for Armia, Dvorak, and salary retained in trades, and we'll have a better picture of our needs going forward. If nobody can take the spot on the second line, it would also probably hurt our record, thus increasing the trade value of our draft pick, The bigger concern, though, would be Dach's health. If he can't stay healthy it would be more important to use those assets to try and bring in another top 6 C than another winger,
Arthur Morgan
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if its long term then sure. but till your young guns are ready, making your self better might be better for the owner and ticket sales but prob not the team. be best to collect another couple top picks. when your ready. condense your assets you dont overly need for upgrades.
as a rebuilder any move I would make would need to fit into a certain age gap and not make a move for the sake of making a move. patience is key and if MTL can hold off on stupid buys they will have a GREAT team soon enough with ALOT of assets to play with. jumping on that now with likely TOR, TB, BOS, FLA and maybe DET, OTT and BUF above you makes little sense to me
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You’d have to take out the 2 1sts and then maybe they’d consider
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Exactly it's too early but it's quite possible that both picks are in the top 10 and the 2 players being mentioned here probably are of zero consideration of any team trading for those 2 picks.
I could see Winnipeg being interested with needing to move Rutger McGroarty and maybe a package along with Elhers could be had?
More likely though is a team with little playoff contention or expectations in the near future like Utah or Anaheim offering something?
