GTHL investigating improper sales of teams

[OHL4Life]

Certainly not, I'm just not of the belief corruption, dirty politics, and super teams benefit minor hockey and player dev. I'm still open to points to the contrary!

ok, what would be your definition of corruption and super teams? im just trying to understand how you see them connected is all.

 

[DWI Dale]

ok, what would be your definition of corruption and super teams? im just trying to understand how you see them connected is all.

if you're asking me for a definition of corruption in minor hockey, in a thread about corruption in minor hockey, you might be the wrong guy to discuss the subject with. it's got major Fischy vibes tbh!

 

[OHL4Life]

if you're asking me for a definition of corruption in minor hockey, in a thread about corruption in minor hockey, you might be the wrong guy to discuss the subject with. it's got major Fischy vibes tbh!

im asking for your version of it, everyone views it differently. are you talking about the selling of organizations, or are you talking about super teams? they are all different topics.

corruption is a very general term, im asking for a specific viewpoint of what you think corruption is and how it impacts aaa hockey.

 

[ScoutLife4]

I'm not sure corruption is even the right word.
Teams are finding way to skirt rules or take advantage of grey areas in some of the cases I've seen.
I try and stay as far away from anything minor hockey as I possibly can but the stories I hear are absolutely incredibly concerning as to what lengths parents with money will go to.
I'm not even sure what's true and what is fake news anymore but there are quite a few stories about teams being sold to someone with money in exchange for decision making input.
Imagine being the coach on one of these teams that has to do what the son of the construction company's Dad tells him to do? lol. -Why would you even stick around? -The only answer I can come up with is they are being compensated above other staff.

 

[OHL4Life]

I'm not sure corruption is even the right word.
Teams are finding way to skirt rules or take advantage of grey areas in some of the cases I've seen.
I try and stay as far away from anything minor hockey as I possibly can but the stories I hear are absolutely incredibly concerning as to what lengths parents with money will go to.
I'm not even sure what's true and what is fake news anymore but there are quite a few stories about teams being sold to someone with money in exchange for decision making input.
Imagine being the coach on one of these teams that has to do what the son of the construction company's Dad tells him to do? lol. -Why would you even stick around? -The only answer I can come up with is they are being compensated above other staff.

that for sure happens, but i struggle with the fact that its always a bad things.

ill use the titans this year. a parent is sponsoring the team, but in exchange no one is paying fees, they have free clothes, the coaches have ipads on the bench for teaching. a few low income kids get to play aaa for free. the parent who is sponsoring it's kid is a top 40 kid and may make the usntdp.

so is that bad?

the huron perth lakers have a ton of kids from outside their area, are they evil?

we look at everything black and white, but it never is.

 

[ScoutLife4]

that for sure happens, but i struggle with the fact that its always a bad things.

ill use the titans this year. a parent is sponsoring the team, but in exchange no one is paying fees, they have free clothes, the coaches have ipads on the bench for teaching. a few low income kids get to play aaa for free. the parent who is sponsoring it's kid is a top 40 kid and may make the usntdp.

so is that bad?

the huron perth lakers have a ton of kids from outside their area, are they evil?

we look at everything black and white, but it never is.

It's probably only bad for the players are no longer good enough to make the team because better kids want to play there. -Those are likely the parents going to OHF, Hockey Canada complaining.
I often hear that so much time is spent on investigating false claims that the serious claims are often forgot about or not properly investigated.
That Titans situation sounds pretty good for the kids though.

 

[OHL4Life]

It's probably only bad for the players are no longer good enough to make the team because better kids want to play there. -Those are likely the parents going to OHF, Hockey Canada complaining.
I often hear that so much time is spent on investigating false claims that the serious claims are often forgot about or not properly investigated.
That Titans situation sounds pretty good for the kids though.

and i dont know for sure because im not around it enough, but i think often lots of kids play for free, and if they are good enough kids who dont have a ton of money play for free, because of these teams. I dont know that many people look at it that way.

i also have been hearing for 30 plus years moms and dads complaining about politics and corruption when almost every time i look into it its just a kid thats not good enough. i was on the board locally and we'd get 5/6 complaints a month and most of the time it was a parent who had zero clue about his kid, unfair expectations, etc. complaining about a 'hand picked coach' who didnt play their kid enough. it wasnt about corruption, it was about their kid. if their kid was the top guy, they wouldnt have complained. i wish we'd hold parents as accountable as we do some organizations, they chase away more good hockey people then anything.

i have no doubt there are issues and crazy parents doing stupid things with sponsoring things. but that also happens in real life, so why would we expect hockey to be different?

so thats why i want to know why someone has an issue with corruption what they mean by it.