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[sandwichbird2023]

Zadorov only cost a 3rd because no other teams could work a whole 4.5m cap hit.

Right, but other teams have more cap space than us at the moment. For example, the Oilers, also rumored to be looking for a D, has about $4.3m in cap space, comparing to our $1.6m. We don't have the cap space advantage anymore.

 

[ManVanFan]

this is a weak draft year imo, particularly after the top 5 or 6. if gms are salivating at taking vancouver's pick off them in anticipation of them dropping in the standings and there's a quality player with term that can be added now is probably a good time to move the pick

It's starting to shape up to be very top end heavy only isn't it.

 

[Rowlet]

Right, but other teams have more cap space than us at the moment. For example, the Oilers, also rumored to be looking for a D, has about $4.3m in cap space, comparing to our $1.6m. We don't have the cap space advantage anymore.

The Oilers only have that because Kane is on LTIR, in reality they have 1m less space than the Canucks do. They can't add while reactivating Kane.

They're actually over the cap right now, so they can't reactivate Kane anyways without waiving anyone.

 

[Curm]

fun fact: the day after we settled on sbisa as the dman coming back in the kesler trade (vs theodore, lindholm, vatanen, and manson), anaheim drafted both marcus pettersson and montour in the second round.

didn’t realize MP was so old, already ten years out from his draft.

Not a fun fact: Montour was drafted 5 picks after the 2nd rounder the Canucks dealt for Linden Vey. Good times.

Gomer is that you?

Blob?

 

[sandwichbird2023]

The Oilers only have that because Kane is on LTIR, in reality they have 1m less space than the Canucks do. They can't add while reactivating Kane.

They're actually over the cap right now, so they can't reactivate Kane anyways without waiving anyone.

I'm doubtful Kane comes back this season, the Oilers certainly doesn't seem like they are planning to reactivate him, seeing as they just claimed Kapanen and adding to their roster, instead of pre-emptively making some room.

But I am not familiar with their situation, so maybe I'm wrong. I just think that it is probably a seller's market and it is extremely unlikely that a top 4 D will go for a 3rd only. But even if the Zadorov-like opportunity comes up, with only $1.6m cap space, we won't be the team taking advantage of it anyways.

 

[krutovsdonut]

this miller thing means raty is going to take a lot of faceoffs. could be a big chance for him.

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

I said at the start of the season that all of the 'trade every pick and prospect this is our window' guys were missing the point. Our real 'window' starts next year or the year after if/when Willander and Lekkerimaki are ingratiated into the team and as Allvin gets to put more of a stamp onto our team.

I still think we will make the playoffs, but last year a lot went right and it probably increased expectations of the fanbase to an unrealistic level.

Now, with a bunch of adversity, things are tougher. But it will be fascinating to watch how this braintrust and our players find their way through it.

 

[kanucks25]

I said at the start of the season that all of the 'trade every pick and prospect this is our window' guys were missing the point. Our real 'window' starts next year or the year after if/when Willander and Lekkerimaki are ingratiated into the team and as Allvin gets to put more of a stamp onto our team.

You can trade picks and prospects for returns that will help in the future, not just this season.

We don't have to trade for only or even any rentals.

 

[Vector]

You can trade picks and prospects for returns that will help in the future, not just this season.

We don't have to trade for only or even any rentals.

*Smiles in Hronek.*

 

[arttk]

*Smiles in Hronek.*

Keep picks when you suck so you hope you can draft guys like Petey, Hughes. Once you have those guys and some, you use picks to trade for top6 guys that most likely aren’t good enough to be stars but you are trading the potential for something more certain.

We spend our 1st on a top6 this year, spend our 1st on another top 6 next year then suddenly you look a hell lot deeper.

 

[David71]

keep all the picks. wait it out. theres a reason why the franchise doesnt have "alot of prospects in their cupboard because they keep trading them. besides lekeramaki/wallinder/dpetey nothing else is special in terms of b level c level guys.

 

[bossram]

Marcus Pettersson be comin' in ASAP.

 

[Raistlin]

I said at the start of the season that all of the 'trade every pick and prospect this is our window' guys were missing the point. Our real 'window' starts next year or the year after if/when Willander and Lekkerimaki are ingratiated into the team and as Allvin gets to put more of a stamp onto our team.

I still think we will make the playoffs, but last year a lot went right and it probably increased expectations of the fanbase to an unrealistic level.

Now, with a bunch of adversity, things are tougher. But it will be fascinating to watch how this braintrust and our players find their way through it.

They really have to look at Demko and ask themselves if he can come back to being 90% or 80% or 70%. Imo, it's all on him, and we should not go all in this season without a clearer picture. This team is not deep, never been, that hasn't changed since our surprise run last year. Without Demko, this team is back to being bubble, and the window will be as you say, next year or the year after. And that is IF Willander and Lekk makes major impact. If Willander turns in a performance like Othmann instead of Edvinsson/Guhle, or if Lekk looks like he does right now next year. That window is then heavily dependent on what we turn our 2024,25 1sts into.

My imagination is still tempered by the Benning years, so I cannot imagine a fantastic enough world where Allvin turns into TB Yzerman and finds gems everywhere. When I compare this team with the Sedin years where the window is truely "The Window", our current blue line's #3 should be a #6 on a contender.

 

[VanJack]

Rutherford said at the beginning of last season, that in order for this team to even make the playoffs, "just about everything had to go right". And basically that's what happened.

No real serious injuries and 'career years' for guys like Boeser, Hughes, Pettersson, Miller, Joshua and Demko. Even guys like Soucy, Hoglander and Myers basically 'overachieved'. Then they found a way to add key pieces like Lindholm and Zadorov.

But their luck seems to running out so far this season. Injuries have bitten hard, and they simply don't have the organizational depth to compensate.

So it's a legitimate question. Do they keep blowing picks and prospects out the door to add some short-term depth to the current roster? Or do they acknowledge that this team is still 'a work in progress' and focus more on the draft and prospect development?