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[Bourne Endeavor]

1. Don't fire the coach, core doesn't deserve more coaches.
2. Trade a core piece, either Miller or Boeser. Team needs a shake up.
3. Move Suter, Juulsen, Forbore and Lankinen. Get a few extra picks for the draft and promote within.
4. In the offseason, change the defense and bring in a special team coach for the PP.
5. Give Ian Clark a blank cheque. Goaltending hasn't been the same since.
6. Build a practice rink, it's embarrassing this team doesn't have one. 8 rinks is terrible.

It's easy to say this, but right now every team knows we're in a terrible position. Are you trading Boeser or Miller for the sake of it because that's the offer you're getting.

Likewise, we don't have anyone to promote who would replace Suter. Sasson and Ratu have been decent, but they're nowhere close to as versatile. Lankinen isn't getting you more than a 2nd, Meanwhile, Juulsen and Forbort would clear waivers.

If we were getting good offers for any of our players, we'd have made a trade already. Teams are looking to fleece not pay actual market value.

 

[DFAC]

Brock + Lekk to Minny for Boldy.

Think the Wild would bite?

Wild would be crazy to bite.

 

[FuzzyTitus]

If they're dealing Boeser, they better get a defenseman in return.

Allvin's bungling the D last summer should be viewed in the same light as the summer of 2020 when Benning let Tanev and Toffoli walk because he was preoccupied with chasing OEL, the first time, and re-signing Virtanen. In fact, considering the core is now solidly in their prime, it's actually worse.

How you equate Benning letting go of one of the best defensive defenseman in the last decade for nothing, to this year is inconceivable to me. Benning gave up a 9 OA pick for OEL. Would you like Allvin to make a panic move like that? I don't.

There may have been a few options for cheap d-men this year, but it's impossible to tell if they ever had the chance to get them for that cheap (Kovacevich).

I think people are forgetting the utter lack of young talent and assets Benning left behind. And the liabilities.

 

[pitseleh]

The Ottawa trade probably was a bit of an overpay, but Washington got him for very good value. Admittedly, the Canucks probably didn’t have anything that Ottawa was interested in.

I thought Ottawa did ok on the Washington trade too. Jensen isn’t quite as good but is also a solid top-4 defender, and they got an extra year of control at a slightly lower price for a player who was going to walk at the end of the season. Plus stylistically Jensen fits a bit better on a team that already has Chabot and Sanderson.

 

[brock hughes007]

The point is that with the hypothetical assets we obtain selling off the mentioned players above we should be able to acquire 1 or possibly 2 young core pieces and potentially dip our toes into getting ourselves a higher end FA with the available cap. Guys like Tkachuk/Power/Necas/Byram would be obtainable and then you sign Ehlers or something in FA.

If we do decide to sell, the next logical step would be to have guys like Raty, D-Petey, Willander etc get a couple of months of NHL experience with the hope that they’re able to establish themselves as full time NHL’ers by the start of next season.



Lankinen’s value right now should be absurdly inflated due to several factors such as his record, his insanely cheap contract, and taking the duties of a starting goaltender and exceeding expectations.

I’m purely speculating but I think teams would much rather spend more assets to get an inexpensive quality goalie than pay less to get a more expensive goalie cap wise of the same caliber.

Why are we trading Lankinen. Demko is one slip on a banana peel and done.
Lankinen needs to be signed and just get rid of Demko for what ever you can get at this point .Time to get rid of some core guys.Miller Boeser Myers Demko ect.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

Kind of feels like the Canucks thought they could limp along to around the deadline, still be in a good position for playoffs, and then weaponize the cap space they've generated.

I believe Vector (?) Has been keeping track of it, and they'd have almost $8M of space without outgoing contracts I think. That'd buy you some decent upgrades. Except it blew up in their face and it'll be a dog fight to get in now.

Bang on, which is more or less what they've done.

 

[David71]

1. Don't fire the coach, core doesn't deserve more coaches.
2. Trade a core piece, either Miller or Boeser. Team needs a shake up.
3. Move Suter, Juulsen, Forbore and Lankinen. Get a few extra picks for the draft and promote within.
4. In the offseason, change the defense and bring in a special team coach for the PP.
5. Give Ian Clark a blank cheque. Goaltending hasn't been the same since.
6. Build a practice rink, it's embarrassing this team doesn't have one. 8 rinks is terrible.

should have built a practice rink a long time ago. next to rogers arena so they wouldnt have to use that trash 8 rinks aka "scotiabarn" or drive to UBC... trade 2 core pieces. firing the coach and using this card is not avaliable anymore.. its time to BLOW IT UP

It's easy to say this, but right now every team knows we're in a terrible position. Are you trading Boeser or Miller for the sake of it because that's the offer you're getting.

Likewise, we don't have anyone to promote who would replace Suter. Sasson and Ratu have been decent, but they're nowhere close to as versatile. Lankinen isn't getting you more than a 2nd, Meanwhile, Juulsen and Forbort would clear waivers.

If we were getting good offers for any of our players, we'd have made a trade already. Teams are looking to fleece not pay actual market value.

imgaine vancouver gave up lerkermaki/walliner +1st 2025 and something else for say byyram or andderson.

 

[sandwichbird2023]

What is going on here? So many things that are false.

1. You kinda can trade or UFA your way to a competent blueline, if you're not an idiot. WSH added Chychrun and Roy in the offseason. TVR came cheap. That's half their blueline. NJ added Dillon and Pesce via UFA, and Kovacevic in a really cheap trade (which I and other smart posters were screaming about Kovacevic for a year-plus). That's half their blueline - and they're now an elite defensive team. FLA plucked Forsling off waivers, Montour was dumped to them, and Mikkola and Kulikov were UFAs. Their Cup-winning blueline came from the scrap heap. Just have to find the right guys.

2. Zadorov was traded to VAN for a 3rd and 5th. It wasn't a 1st++. You obviously got confused with Lindholm, but it very obviously undermines your point. Allvin largely solved their blueline issue last season reasonably cheaply.

You CAN trade and UFA your way to a competent blueline but you really need to have good scouting along with a bunch of good luck for it to be viable. Last year we signed Soucy and Cole, and not long before that traded for Hronek, then added Z in another trade. We hit on all our acquisitions and our pro scouts looked like genius.
Fast forward to this season and we signed Desharnais, Forbort and extended Myers and Juulsen, and suddenly our pro scouts looks like idiots.
I guess my point is that while it is possible, the odds are stacked against you to hit so often, eventually you will miss and end up with some duds, and the season is flushed away. Keep playing this game doesn't seem like a sustainable long term strategy.

 

[kanucks25]

They essentially believed their own hype too much when it came to their pro scouting and how much their system elevated whatever D-man they put into it - last year every D-man had the best season of their career except probably Cole.

I don't think anyone was convinced before the season started that this D group was Stanley Cup calibre but I and many others gave them the benefit of the doubt that they could hold the fort until they acquired an upgrade.

But Myers and Soucy were awful out of the gate and Soucy hasn't really recovered outside a short stretch of games, Forbort and Desharnais have performed predictably somewhere between bad and adequate, the Hronek injury meant a ton more games for Juulsen, and that aforementioned upgrade still hasn't arrived.

I wouldn't say this was a Benning level bungling as there was some bad luck involved and no drastic loss of assets but it was definitely a major miscalculation that they haven't been able to fix and it may cost them the playoffs and has probably already cost them a successful season unless we see a miraculous turnaround sometime soon here.

Gotta wonder what other options were genuinely available to them in the summer that they passed on.

 

[Delocatedfan]

I can see Boeser being a trade casualty if JRPA dont see him signing an extension they are comfortable with.

As for Tocchet I dont see them firing him but isn't his contract up at the end of the season? It might be a case of letting him ride out the season and both sides moving on mutually. It has been boring hockey but truthfully I dont think Tocchet is the problem.

If Drury is still hot after Miller it might be worth seeing what is available aside from Schneider & maybe taking a lesser or struggling player but getting a pick is the way to go. JT looked checked out vs Winnipeg