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[TruGr1t]

maybe hoglander or are they really trying to fleece the canucks are are asking for boeser or garland (which definitely means the deal can't be KK and JR)

Hoglander makes the most sense, so wouldn't be surprised if they're trying to do KK + Roslovic straight across for Miller + Hoglander.

 

[Grip it N RYP it]

Feels like we're cooked with the OEL buy out looming at almost 5 mil a season for two. At least last season was fun lol.

Every morning, I wake up early before work, with a beautiful cup of roasted coffee, looking out at the indefinable horizon, and just beyond it, is the OEL buyout.

 

[SnapIt]

Every morning, I wake up early before work, with a beautiful cup of roasted coffee, looking out at the indefinable horizon and just beyond it, is the OEL buyout.

You’re not supposed to look directly at the OEL buyout

 

[Vector]

Hoglander makes the most sense, so wouldn't be surprised if they're trying to do KK + Roslovic straight across for Miller + Hoglander.

That's my assumption as well. Seravalli did say that they've propose a few different scenarios to the Canucks. I'm guessing they involve various degrees of salary retention or involving a 3rd party.

 

[Agent007]

Hoglander makes the most sense, so wouldn't be surprised if they're trying to do KK + Roslovic straight across for Miller + Hoglander.

there's gotta be a 1st and a prospect added but assuming the prospect is among the top 5 that carolina has I think you do that and move on with life (with that being said I would rather that Chytil over KK's contract)

 

[TruGr1t]

there's gotta be a 1st and a prospect added but assuming the prospect is among the top 5 that carolina has I think you do that and move on with life (with that being said I would rather that Chytil over KK's contract)

I really don't think there is, unless there's retention the Canucks won't do. If there was anything like that involved, as a lot of people have said, the deal would likely be done.

I would go so far as to say, any proposed deals where the Canucks come out with even a marginal win, are probably unrealistic.

 

[Nuckles]

Hoglander makes the most sense, so wouldn't be surprised if they're trying to do KK + Roslovic straight across for Miller + Hoglander.

I've been thinking lately, if they decide to keep Pettersson they may also keep Hoglander to appease him considering they're friends. And they don't want to keep dealing with mopey Petey.

It honestly wouldn't surprise me if that's also the reason why they didn't trade Hoglander earlier in the season despite Tocchet's constant doghouse treatment.

 

[wonton15]

I've been thinking lately, if they decide to keep Pettersson they may also keep Hoglander to appease him considering they're friends. And they don't want to keep dealing with mopey Petey.

It honestly wouldn't surprise me if that's also the reason why they didn't trade Hoglander earlier in the season despite Tocchet's constant doghouse treatment.

It’s a nice thought but they aren’t appeasing Pettersson, whom they are openly saying they’re exploring the market for, with a player that is signed 3x3 who can’t stay in the lineup over Linus Karlsson/Max Sasson. They are doing the opposite.

 

[Bgav]

Seravali on daily faceoff live saying miller has signaled to the canucks that he's ready to move.

How on earth can they pivot to trading Petey right now when Miller wants out ?

 

[Bleach Clean]

How likely is Lindholm to reach that high again? 0.1%? How likely is it that Lindholm gets worse? Pretty likely. Chytil and Kotkaniemi at least have some probability of improving. Fluto Shinzawa (BOS Athletic beat reporter) wrote a very recent article with the premise that, "Lindholm is a $7.75M 3C, it is what it is".

I had also been very firmly and vocally on the side of not wanting Zadorov re-signed. Certainly wasn't me lionizing him. He's a career #5 and people were losing their minds because he played 11 games at a top-four level.

Lindholm is 30, not 34. I think the probability he bounces back is greater than the probability that Cytil/Kotkaniemi find a level they've never experienced. Chytil is 25 and Kotka is 4 months from 25. At 25, Lindholm was pacing 69 points/82 games... They are not in his class.

I know you didn't want Zadorov back. It was an aside that I've noticed on these boards.

 

[Szechwan]

A f***ing podcaster has our owner meddling again lmfao.

Did you learn nothing from the US elections? Podcast bros run the world now man

 

[Nucker101]

I think dumba sucks

But that is very reasonable to take back if it brings back more assets

I’d take back Lindgren if he can be flipped at the TDL

Type of dman playoff teams love

 

[Vector]

I've been thinking lately, if they decide to keep Pettersson they may also keep Hoglander to appease him considering they're friends. And they don't want to keep dealing with mopey Petey.

It honestly wouldn't surprise me if that's also the reason why they didn't trade Hoglander earlier in the season despite Tocchet's constant doghouse treatment.

Sprong is Pettersson's friend and cut him loose pretty damn fast. I really don't think being close to Pettersson matters to management. They believed that with Hoglander's production last season and the way he came into training camp prepared, they felt it made sense to lock him up right away and use that as an example to other players.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Every morning, I wake up early before work, with a beautiful cup of roasted coffee, looking out at the indefinable horizon, and just beyond it, is the OEL buyout.

 

[VanillaCoke]

Dont get my hopes up again

Canes: KK, Roslovic, Morror + 2025 1st
Rags: Chytil, KAM, Othmann + pick
Devils: Palat, Nemec + 2026 1st
Bruins: Zacha, Lohrei, Poitras + pick
Stars: Hintz or Marchment, Bichsel + Bourque/pick

Definitely maybe prepare for disappointment

 

[Bleach Clean]

Seravali on daily faceoff live saying miller has signaled to the canucks that he's ready to move.

How on earth can they pivot to trading Petey right now when Miller wants out ?

Has to be a smokescreen.

The key thing for this management team is not to overreact to half season samples. The entire team is playing badly. Hughes excelling is because Hughes is amazing. Judging players in this context is very, very difficult.

Seravelli confirming what was already asserted: Miller wants out. (I'm glad someone in the media has confirmed it)

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Dont get my hopes up again

Definitely maybe prepare for disappointment

I'm already there.

Such is life as a Canucks fan.

 

[Nucker101]

The fun part is anything seems to be on the table with Rutherford, this could be a smokescreen attempt to get the Miller offers up, but I feel like Rutherford is also the type of guy to actually turn the smokescreen into reality if everyone tries to call his bluff.

 

[wonton15]

It’s Friday, there’s no game, and the sun is out in Vancouver. It’s the perfect day for a 3PM trade bomb!

 

[cfj007]

Pete+Hog for KK+Svech+Nikishin

Pete+Hog for KK+Svech+Nikishin

 

[sandwichbird2023]

Canes: KK, Roslovic, Morror + 2025 1st
Rags: Chytil, KAM, Othmann + pick
Devils: Palat, Nemec + 2026 1st
Bruins: Zacha, Lohrei, Poitras + pick
Stars: Hintz or Marchment, Bichsel + Bourque/pick

Are these offers for Petey? Because no way JT gets anything close to that in return.

 

[brock hughes007]

W2a1

How good is Chytil? Lindholm's low end (now) is probably comparable to his high end.



The reality of accepting a low return for Miller means the team has to take a chance at 2C. Chytil, Kotkaniemi have better contracts, but have never achieved Lindholm's highs.

Aside: It's weird how people lionize Zadorov here due to a strong playoff performance (and being big). Lindholm had a strong playoffs here too, and he wasn't considered a bottom end player for the majority of his career, like Zadorov.

Zads is head and shoulders way better then the shit we brought in here.Had he played last night there was no way in hell Perry was tossing Hughes around like a rag doll.
It pisses me off that we did not sign him and had to settle for this garbage we have.

 

[vancityluongo]

Are these offers for Petey? Because no way JT gets anything close to that in return.

one of the funny (not really funny) parts of this situation is that if they were on different teams, jt for petey would be a great foundation for a trade. top-10 center (when on, but not always due to issues) for top-10 center (when on, but not always due to issues). both signed long-term at approximately market value contracts.

the canucks can effectively have that by trading one, but it will be for a package that no one is happy with. vs if you get a high end player back, at least there's a shift in strategic direction that can be made around that.

it's really a shit spot to try and frame a strategy around getting jesperi kotkaniemi back

 

[Bleach Clean]

W2a1

Zads is head and shoulders way better then the shit we brought in here.Had he played last night there was no way in hell Perry was tossing Hughes around like a rag doll.
It pisses me off that we did not sign him and had to settle for this garbage we have.

What did Perry do when Friedman challenged him? Nothing.

Zadorov is the rough equivalent of Myers on a poison pill contract. He'd be on the bottom pair here.

 

[arttk]

Feels like we're cooked with the OEL buy out looming at almost 5 mil a season for two. At least last season was fun lol.

Chill, cap is gong up to 98M next season.

Has to be a smokescreen.

The key thing for this management team is not to overreact to half season samples. The entire team is playing badly. Hughes excelling is because Hughes is amazing. Judging players in this context is very, very difficult.

Seravelli confirming what was already asserted: Miller wants out. (I'm glad someone in the media has confirmed it)

yeah trading Petey at this point will not change the fact Miller wants out. Then there is the other potential problem, how well is Miller regarded within the room. We don't know if it's a Petey vs Miller problem or a Miller vs too many other players problem.