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arttk

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Wonder if trouba would cost a not so small fortune. He checks the boxes aside from cap hit.
Trouba is declining pretty rapidly, unless we getting paid to take him on with half retention, it's a no go. Also if he plays here, he is going to get suspended right away for the shit he pulls off in broadway.
 

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Trouba is declining pretty rapidly, unless we getting paid to take him on with half retention, it's a no go. Also if he plays here, he is going to get suspended right away for the shit he pulls off in broadway.

Hell, it would have to be double-retention and even then I'd be highly skeptical. From everything I've read, he's actively dragging down his partners.
 

sting101

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If the Jackets were smart they would just calm this situation down and let Jiricek bake unless they can get a team to trade for Jiricek like he's a future #1 D. Doubtful given the situation

For us he doesn't make much sense from and asset management sake unless you think we get a better long term player than Willander and can pull that off. Would be a huge risk given the 2 are trending in different directions and we would be giving up the better skater
 
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If the Jackets were smart they would just calm this situation down and let Jiricek bake unless they can get a team to trade for Jiricek like he's a future #1 D. Doubtful given the situation

For us he doesn't make much sense from and asset management sake unless you think we get a better long term player than Willander and can pull that off. Would be a huge risk given the 2 are trending in different directions and we would be giving up the better skater

There are a lot of parallels between Jiricek and Philip Broberg as players and while Jiricek will almost certainly be some sort of NHL player in 2-3 years I'm not sure he improves the team at all right now and I don't think he's the basket we should be putting all our eggs in for this season.
 

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If the Jackets were smart they would just calm this situation down and let Jiricek bake unless they can get a team to trade for Jiricek like he's a future #1 D. Doubtful given the situation

For us he doesn't make much sense from and asset management sake unless you think we get a better long term player than Willander and can pull that off. Would be a huge risk given the 2 are trending in different directions and we would be giving up the better skater
At this point, a lot of Jiricek's future depends on his attitude. If he is focused on improving his game in the A he still has a chance as Nemec is down there in Utica as well.

But this whole, I'm good enough to be in the NHL yet the team doesn't think so, is really bad for him. Walsh doesn't help the situation. Team wants it to work, but don't see enough from him to think that playing him in the NHL will get him better at the moment.

Would not trade for him. Can't take that risk.

That's why I'm never into bring kids up after 15-20 games in the A. Outside of a cup of coffee like Lekky to give them a glimpse fo the speed of the NHL, send them down to continue working on their game. Jiricek was in the NHL too long last season.
 

arttk

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absolutely

i think this is also why they've constantly been rumoured to be open to moving garland or even actively shopping him despite how productive he's been in limited opportunity
lets ignore the fact they extended Hog who is a pretty small guy and ignore the fact Garland didn't really fit until Joshua became his linemate and Tocchet came in and helped him changed his play style.
 
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Vector

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There are a lot of parallels between Jiricek and Philip Broberg as players and while Jiricek will almost certainly be some sort of NHL player in 2-3 years I'm not sure he improves the team at all right now and I don't think he's the basket we should be putting all our eggs in for this season.

This has been the argument I've making. Makes sense long-term but not for this season or even next.
 

arttk

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This has been the argument I've making. Makes sense long-term but not for this season or even next.
There are a lot of parallels between Jiricek and Philip Broberg as players and while Jiricek will almost certainly be some sort of NHL player in 2-3 years I'm not sure he improves the team at all right now and I don't think he's the basket we should be putting all our eggs in for this season.
Yeah we don't have the assets to make this work anyways unless Hog will get it done.
 
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sting101

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There are a lot of parallels between Jiricek and Philip Broberg as players and while Jiricek will almost certainly be some sort of NHL player in 2-3 years I'm not sure he improves the team at all right now and I don't think he's the basket we should be putting all our eggs in for this season.
Yes it's an unnecessary gamble for us.

We have a HIGHLY coveted player moving in the right direction with what looks to be an amazing attitude and defensive + skating fundamentals at RD who is pretty much in the same timeline now that Jiricek has shown he's not ready to be a good NHLer.

Would be crazy logic given the trend/data surrounding Jiricek's struggles and without PP utility needs

Making that move would be a job killer if it doesn't work out and nothing is more horrifying for a high pick prospect than the game moving too fast for them.
 

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