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[Bourne Endeavor]

The only way Jiricek makes sense is we Hoglander isn't included and they're hoping to flip him at the deadline for someone like Pettersson. Like MS said, if it's our 1st, Hoglander and whoever else, we've basically killed any chance of upgrading our defense now.

I suppose it could be a 2026 1st but still...

Hoglander is the better and more proven player, but his extension does probably not make him an attractive reclamation project.

That's fair. At 3M, he's far more of a gamble now. Kind of wish Allvin waited even if I get the intention.

 

[arttk]

The only way Jiricek makes sense is we Hoglander isn't included and they're hoping to flip him at the deadline for someone like Pettersson. Like MS said, if it's our 1st, Hoglander and whoever else, we've basically killed any chance of upgrading our defense now.

I suppose it could be a 2026 1st but still...



That's fair. At 3M, he's far more of a gamble now. Kind of wish Allvin waited even if I get the intention.

If it’s a future 1st it’s fine because Jiricek is a young guy and someone you can keep for multiple years.
If we have this years first we can use it at TDL still

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

I would take a Reddit rumor with an iceberg sized grain of salt (which it seems most of you are).

That reply about Alriksson legit made me LOL, though. Well played.

 

[Peter Griffin]

The Hoglander extension was one of the few moves this management group has made that was an immediate head scratcher, especially given Tocchet has never really been a big fan of his.

Lekkerimaki straight up or with a small add for Jiricek could make sense, but only if the team feels they can lock up Boeser to a reasonable extension.

 

[Hodgy]

The Hoglander extension was one of the few moves this management group has made that was an immediate head scratcher, especially given Tocchet has never really been a big fan of his.

Lekkerimaki straight up or with a small add for Jiricek could make sense, but only if the team feels they can lock up Boeser to a reasonable extension.

Having a cost-controlled Jircek on the back end would certainly help the team lock Boeser up.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Much like Askarov, Jiricek wants to be in the Show now.

Even if the Nucks trade for him, that's not going to happen right away.

And with Willander in the wings, it makes it difficult going forward to guarantee anything.

So I can't see mgmt being competitive on a deal for Jiricek given there will be interest league wide and better fits elsewhere.

 

[Jerry the great]

The fact that Jiricek is even available should be considered a flashing red warning sign IMO. Why is an organization - particularly one desperate for RHD - giving up on their highly touted RHD prospect drafted 6OA 2.5 years ago?

 

[Hodgy]

The fact that Jiricek is even available should be considered a flashing red warning sign IMO. Why is an organization - particularly one desperate for RHD - giving up on their highly touted RHD prospect drafted 6OA 2.5 years ago?

Because its a dysfunctional organization that's mismanaged that prospect's development and the prospect is pissed and has asked for a trade? Could very easily be the case.

 

[wonton15]

I love reddit “leaks” now because of the Horvat and Lindholm leaks. Now I get irrationally excited even though I know this one is probably not true

Also it would just be ridiculous to blow a 1st on someone not in their prime or close to it in this window

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

Because its a dysfunctional organization that's mismanaged that prospect's development and the prospect is pissed and has asked for a trade? Could very easily be the case.

Gives me a little bit of Gilbert Brule vibes. Brule was terribly mismanaged in Columbus, and never got back on track.

Not saying that is or will be the case of Jiricek, but I'd be wary of the sticker price here. I trust Allvin and Co. to have done their homework, but still.

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

Gives me a little bit of Gilbert Brule vibes. Brule was terribly mismanaged in Columbus, and never got back on track.

Not saying that is or will be the case of Jiricek, but I'd be wary of the sticker price here. I trust Allvin and Co. to have done their homework, but still.

What still floors me is Jarmo telling the kid to look for a place in Columbus and what, a few days later they waive him? How that man kept his job for so long is behind me.

 

[Hansen]

Id take a flyer on Jiricek but not a huge one

As has been said, he just doesnt fit our timeline and wont be in a position to thrive with Hronek and Willander waiting in the wings

 

[Vector]

I would take a Reddit rumor with an iceberg sized grain of salt (which it seems most of you are).

That reply about Alriksson legit made me LOL, though. Well played.

Well...last time there was a reddit rumour about a Canucks trade it was about Lindholm and Kuzmenko getting traded. That turned out to be completely true. Weirdly enough.

 

[Hansen]

Well...last time there was a reddit rumour about a Canucks trade it was about Lindholm and Kuzmenko getting traded. That turned out to be completely true. Weirdly enough.

There has been a weird uptick in reddit posts claiming rumours like this actually happening the last couple years

 

[Vector]

There has been a weird uptick in reddit posts claiming rumours like this actually happening the last couple years

I did a quick search through this reddit user's post history and pretty much every one of their comments has been deleted or downvoted to hell.

 

[Bobby9]

Hoglander isn't going anywhere. We just resigned him and his value is at an all time low.

Give it time. He'll suddenly rebound and will be a fan favorite again in no time just when the trade deadline hits and he's traded for a bag of pucks.

If moving him addresses a glaring weakness (top4 D) he will absolutely be moved.

 

[Kryten]

I did a quick search through this reddit user's post history and pretty much every one of their comments has been deleted or downvoted to hell.

So youre saying I shouldnt take the day off and refresh all day?

 

[Vector]

So youre saying I shouldnt take the day off and refresh all day?

I mean...I am so you don't have to.

 

[Hansen]

I mean...I am so you don't have to.

thank you for your service sir

 

[Jerry the great]

Because its a dysfunctional organization that's mismanaged that prospect's development and the prospect is pissed and has asked for a trade? Could very easily be the case.

he was clearly not ready in year 1....played nearly all of that season in the AHL, got an NHL taste at the end of the season.

year 2 he played like the first 41 of 45 GP (edit: 36 of 40), wasn't good enough so they asked him to go down and he kicked up quite a fuss. Despite not playing particularly well when there, he did get another stretch of NHL action at the end of the season where he was, once again, not very good.

Year 3 he was not good in preseason and hasn't been good in the limited time he's "earned". lots of speculation about why he wasn't in the American League, but if it's as you suggest, and the player has asked for a trade because he doesn't want to be in the AHL, that's probably a bigger red flag for me than the team not loving what they saw under the covers so to speak.

 

[WTG]

If I had to guess, they'd rather trade Lekkerimaki than Willander just considering the fact RHD are just impossible to find for cheap nowadays. No disrespect to Lekkerimaki, but does he really have the ability to be better than Boeser for the next 4 years?

The fact that they already called up Pettersson to give him a NHL paycheck for his play makes it seem like that's not on the trading block either. But who knows, Columbus probably wants a RHD prospect in return.

 

[bossram]

Hoglander is the better and more proven player, but his extension does probably not make him an attractive reclamation project.

Smallish, offense-only wingers just don't have value. We've seen this over and over. Hoglander is not much of a trade chip.

 

[Burke's Evil Spirit]

What still floors me is Jarmo telling the kid to look for a place in Columbus and what, a few days later they waive him? How that man kept his job for so long is behind me.

Jarmo took over in Columbus years after they waived Brule. I think that was Howson.

 

[VanJack]

Seems to me that Allvin values 'character' as much as anything when he's drafting, trading or signing players.

Jiricek claims that 'he's an NHL player and doesn't belong in the AHL'. Problem is, if the Canucks acquired him, that's exactly where he'd end up.....and perhaps even for more than one season.

The NHL tends to eat 20-year old d-men for breakfast. So how long would it be before Jiricek was unhappy playing in Abbotsford?

I'm not entirely convinced that given his stalled development in Columbus, that fellow 20-year d-men like Elias Pettersson and Kiril Kudryavtsev might actually be ahead of him. Not to mention Wilander and even Myniio.

Maybe it's a hangover from the Benning years......but I'm always leery of expending valuable assets to acquire another team's failed or stalled draft picks. There's usually always a reason why the team that drafted them high, decides to move on after only a couple of seasons.

 

[God]

I wonder if trading a 1st and a prospect (e.g. Mynio) for Jiricek could also be part of a bigger trade down the line, like Horvat for a 1st, which became Hronek.