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I think this Chester fellow has some great ideas:
For the Weisbrod stuff we can just Milton him down to the sub basement and bring him around every now and then.
I love every bit of this. It's so Vegas-y.
I think this Chester fellow has some great ideas:
For the Weisbrod stuff we can just Milton him down to the sub basement and bring him around every now and then.
It's even worse than just the forwards having to do everything because the d are sabotaging the plays in real time.Either way, I think a big reason we have practically zero transition game is the forwards has to do almost everything themselves because no one can set them up properly except Hughes. I don't know if Marcus Pettersson is the answer but they need to pay whatever price is being asked for someone to actually move the puck.
I've posted elsewhere but I'll repeat it here too.
Allvin and Rutherford aren't getting nearly enough criticism for how poorly they handled the off season in terms of defense. Yes, Sherwood, DeBrusk and Lankinen have all been great additions but the fact we're deploying five guys who wouldn't play above 4th on a good day, and are better served on the third pairing or a 7th man rotation is inexcusable.
I just don't know how you look at Soucy, who's been a career bottom pair guy until last season, and Myers who literally only played well his first season here and his sixth and think, "oh, they'll definitely repeat that performance." Or how they seemingly thought Juulsen would be remotely consistent.
And don't even get me started of Desharnais' asinine contract.
Just going to put this out there. If we didn't sign Forbort and Desharnais, we could fit Tanev at his exact contract. Not saying that's what we should have done but it just highlights how much better our defense could have been with similar money.
Miller has a full no-move clause in his contract.....and there's zero chance he ever waives to go to Buffalo.JT for byram + +
Been feeling the same myself. And that reddit post I linked last week only emphasised just how much the team relies on Hughes for damn near everything. Although, they were speaking more about Petey's struggles due to him not playing with Hughes as often.
Either way, I think a big reason we have practically zero transition game is the forwards has to do almost everything themselves because no one can set them up properly except Hughes. I don't know if Marcus Pettersson is the answer but they need to pay whatever price is being asked for someone to actually move the puck.
Sometimes but more often destruction and turmoil is what lingers.From conflict arises strength.
I doubt that the Sabers would trade Dahlin straight up for EP and more likely they would do Cozens and Bryam for him.EP for Dahlin
Or think what you would want for Dahlin if you had to trade him. What kind of package from Buf would you accept in exchange for Dahlin? That's what we want for EP.
Miller a lot less, something around Byram or Power but he wouldn't waive for Buffalo.
We need a LD that can carry a 2nd pairing but the problem is that as soon as we trade either EP or Miller we immediately have a huge hole at centre so a trade doesn't really make sense.
Posted this in the other thread but I 100% agree with you.
Shit defense is definitely a thing but I seriously doubt shit defense can lead to a 99pt gritty hard nosed winger assistant captain controller disconnecting in the middle of a PK and taking a 3 week mental health break.I'm convinced this shit defense is the real underlying issue with the entire team, and this whole dressing-room drama crap is window dressing.
Tony DeAngelo was out there but then again it would be a short term stop gap and the real problem has been that aside from Hughes we haven't drafted nor developed top 4 Dmen aside from Hughes for over a decade.
I could see bringing in/back one of Deharnais, Forbort, Juulsen etc but putting yourself in a position where all are high enough on the depth chart to play after one real injury...
If they wanted to bring Myers back, they should have built it in mind with him playing bottom pair minutes.
I can't remember who was out there in the off season exactly FA or trade wise, but if you're running:
Hughes - Hronek
Soucy - X
As your top 4 with player X being a legit 2-3 defender.
Tocchet’s insistence on lefty/righty pairings led to the signings of Myers/Desharnais IMO.
If we are playing the blame game, Tocchet is so low on the list it's immaterial.
Agreed. Tocchet is (not quite) doing the best with the hand he was dealt.
The Drury aspect is certainly valid..It’s Drury.
I’d try for Laf, Schneider + pick.
I also like Cuylle.
Hmm I like the thought process but what I don't like is:If we need veteran leadership and a 2nd line Dman then we might want JR to call the Pens and see if we can dangle:
HOG
Vinny
Pick
For
Letang 20% retained.
He’s still a very capable dman and had a boat load of experience and is respected around the league.