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GDT: Group B - May 17 - Canada (0) vs Finland (4)

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I think it's going to be a tight game. Canada is clearly the favorite, but Finland has a good team as well. Canada has four offensively capable lines and many good two-way players. Finland has two lines that are on Canada's level and two lines that are more defense-oriented who can hopefully hold their own against the more skilled Canadians. I think the Finnish D should be good enough in their own end for the most part, they're a pretty good - even if a little bit nameless - bunch. As long as they don't try anything fancy.
 
Scotty B said:
Duh...they certainly were when the schedule was made...Yanks were last year's BRONZE MEDALISTS
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That's not true. It's based on IIHF rankings. Also the seeds of both groups have the same schedule. For instance Finland plays during the same time slots Sweden(#2 seed of group A) plays, while USA plays at the same time slots Czechia(#3 seed of group B) plays.
 
StanAjax said:
Seeding is based on IIHF ranking, so, yes, Finland was definitely the higher seed against USA.
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We had, based on last year's WC finish, 1 vs 3 ( B Pool ) and 2 vs 4 ( A pool ) to start the tourney...some OBVIOUS symmetry there...and NOT by coincidence

So to reiterate ...a la world junior scheduling, and that of many other IIHF tourney's...scheduling , plus the composition of the two pools, IS based on LAST YEAR's RESULTS...

So again, USA NOT FINLAND WAS THE HIGHER CEDE GOING IN
 
Scotty B said:
We had, based on last year's WC finish, 1 vs 3 ( B Pool ) and 2 vs 4 ( A pool ) to start the tourney...some OBVIOUS symmetry there...and NOT by coincidence

So to reiterate ...a la world junior scheduling, and that of many other IIHF tourney's...scheduling , plus the composition of the two pools, IS based on LAST YEAR's RESULTS...

So again, USA NOT FINLAND WAS THE HIGHER CEDE GOING IN
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Didn't I just explain Finland has the same schedule as Sweden... Like Russia has the same schedule as Canada, like USA has the same schedule as Czechia, as Slovakia has the same schedule as Switzerland... And so forth.
 
Czechia sounds silly (not a real country). They're not actually going with that name still - are they?
 
The IIHF Sport Regulations downloadable here explains the seeding, and game schedules and stuff:

http://www.iihf.com/iihf-home/sport/iihf-rule-book.html

To quote:


If in the previous championship pool all positions of the participating teams were decided, the teams will keep their ranking numbers as seeding numbers for the next championship. Only the relegated team will get the top seeding number in the lower pool, whereas the promoting winner from the lower pool will get the bottom seeding number in the higher pool.

If in a championship pool, which was played in two or more groups where all teams have not played each other and all final placing of teams were not decided, then the missing seeding numbers will be allotted by use of the following criteria in the order presented:
1. Higher position in the group,
2. Higher number of points,
3. Better goal difference,
4. Higher number of goals scored for,
5. Better seeding number in the previous championship
Should the number of teams in the groups be different or in special circumstances, the IIHF Competition Committee will prepare an appropriate solution for consideration of IIHF Council. The IIHF Council shall have the option to amend the seeding numbers with the agreement of the majority of participating national associations to accommodate special requirements of an organizer or for geographical considerations.

If a championship pool consists of two groups to take place in two countries whose teams are seeded into the same group, the hosting country team in the lower position will switch its position with the team in the same position of the other group.

Examples for Seeding of Teams into Groups for an IIHF Championship Event
The following are examples demonstrating the use of seedings to produce a game schedule using a regular seeding format and a seeding by draw format.

1. Regular Seeding into 2 Groups:
Group A Group B
1 2
4 3
5 6
8 7

etc.



The organising member national association will prepare the game schedule for the respective
IIHF Championship in accordance with the IIHF Sport Regulations. This game proposal is to
be approved by the participating national associations. If not agreed then the IIHF Council will
make the final decision. (Page 9)
 
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QnebO said:
This video sums up all hfboards expectations about this game:

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hahahahah. That pretty much sums up how I feel about Laine <3 . That was like Wayne Gretzky's 3D hockey on speed. PATRIK LAINE :bow: :bow: :bow:

I hope Canada wins, but I kinda hope Laine goes beast mode and shows the world what he's made of.
 
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ijuka said:
Didn't I just explain Finland has the same schedule as Sweden... Like Russia has the same schedule as Canada, like USA has the same schedule as Czechia, as Slovakia has the same schedule as Switzerland... And so forth.
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Canada ( top cede in pool B, based on last year's WC Gold medal ) has a schedule which mirrors that of Russia ( top cede in pool A, based on last year's WC silver medal )

USA ( SECOND cede in pool B, based on last year's WC bronze medal ) has a schedule which mirrors that of Czechs ( second cede in pool A, based on last year's 4th place finish )

Finland ( THIRD cede in pool B, based on last year's WC results ) has schedule which mirrors that of Sweden ( third cede in pool A, based on last years results )...Pretty OBVIOUS Symmetry NO?

Again OBVIOUSLY The Pools are predicated on last year's WC finish, and the schedule ( well thought out or not? ) was predicated on that...

I don't know how many times I can state the obvious? Going into this tourney, as per the schedule and as per the pool arrangements, USA WAS INDEED ceded higher ( in Pool B ) than Suomi, going in, based on last year's WC results...

Having said that...the schedule makers could have been kinder to both Russia and Canada who were, after all, the highest cedes in their respective pools...

Yanks were the home team vs Canada...AND Suomi with a full day of rest plays Canada who played yesterday...

Schedule could have been done differently...JUST SAY'IN...
 
ijuka said:
Luckily for us, the Finnish goal song is the best in the tournament.
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It's atrocious and an insult to humanity itself.

It used to be good, when it was Terasbetoni. I don't know what the F that garbage is that they use now but every time I hear it I seriously consider puncturing my ear drums with a butter knife. It's worse than the goal song for Espoon Blues, it's even worse than the goal song of HIFK.
 
psycho_dad said:
It's atrocious and an insult to humanity itself.

It used to be good, when it was Terasbetoni. I don't know what the F that garbage is that they use now but every time I hear it I seriously consider puncturing my ear drums with a butter knife. It's worse than the goal song for Espoon Blues, it's even worse than the goal song of HIFK.
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I's an original Antti Tuisku song covered into hilarious ice-hockey rap form by the leading ice-hockey rapper in the country. I'm in severe pain from only writing that description.

I have a theory that JVG has gotten into this position by blackmail, and I'm fairly certain what they are blackmailing with is intimate knowledge of who it was that was doin' Suski.
 
psycho_dad said:
It's atrocious and an insult to humanity itself.

It used to be good, when it was Terasbetoni. I don't know what the F that garbage is that they use now but every time I hear it I seriously consider puncturing my ear drums with a butter knife. It's worse than the goal song for Espoon Blues, it's even worse than the goal song of HIFK.
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Finish goals ones should be humppa only.
 
Flick of the Switch said:
Well they're not too wrong to be honest. We'd be going as underdogs against any of the other options and with a good advantage against Denmark/Switzerland, simple as that. It won't be "free" but it's an easier game that's a fact. We can still get our ***** handed to us but you know.

Don't think we'll have to worry about it though, expecting a loss tonight against Canada. 4-1 Canada, we get outskated and take penalties and Perry capitalizes. Antti 'Jesus' Pihlström with the 1 guarenteed goal.
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I actually hold us as favorites against Sweden, Czechs. Russia and Canada are the only teams that make me nervous.
 
It would be better if Finland lost vs Canada. It's wrong to play for quarters to be honest. Rather vs Czechia than vs Russia in semis.
 
Canada wins I think.

The Finns are pretty good with their Top 6 but the rest of the team looks pretty mediocre.

It will be definitely Canada's toughest test of the tournament thus far.
 
No idea how this game will go. Finland looks good. Barkov is an absolute beast and playing some elite level hockey right now.
 
I cancelled 3 meetings and booked a dummy meeting named Customer Implementation Schedule just so I can watch the game
 
Scotty B said:
Canada ( top cede in pool B, based on last year's WC Gold medal ) has a schedule which mirrors that of Russia ( top cede in pool A, based on last year's WC silver medal )

USA ( SECOND cede in pool B, based on last year's WC bronze medal ) has a schedule which mirrors that of Czechs ( second cede in pool A, based on last year's 4th place finish )

Finland ( THIRD cede in pool B, based on last year's WC results ) has schedule which mirrors that of Sweden ( third cede in pool A, based on last years results )...Pretty OBVIOUS Symmetry NO?

Again OBVIOUSLY The Pools are predicated on last year's WC finish, and the schedule ( well thought out or not? ) was predicated on that...

I don't know how many times I can state the obvious? Going into this tourney, as per the schedule and as per the pool arrangements, USA WAS INDEED ceded higher ( in Pool B ) than Suomi, going in, based on last year's WC results...

Having said that...the schedule makers could have been kinder to both Russia and Canada who were, after all, the highest cedes in their respective pools...

Yanks were the home team vs Canada...AND Suomi with a full day of rest plays Canada who played yesterday...

Schedule could have been done differently...JUST SAY'IN...
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[MOD], the World Championships seeding is based on the IIHF ranking, as explained on the IIHF website :

The IIHF World Ranking is a tool to reflect the long-term quality of the countries' national team programs, taking into consideration the results over four years. It is used to determine the seeding in the IIHF Ice Hockey World Championship as well as to determine the seeding and which teams are automatically qualified for Olympic Winter Games
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http://www.iihfworlds2016.com/en/information/#world-ranking
 
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StanAjax said:
Seeding is based on IIHF ranking, so, yes, Finland was definitely the higher seed against USA.
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pretty sure ur mixing up IIHF world ranking and WC pre-tourney seeding ( upon which this year's schedule + pools were predicated . They Are NOT the same...In the latter case, USA>Suomi
 
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