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I have put together a system that allows us to evaluate the greatest scorers in NHL history. It levels the playing field so that players do not have an advantage because of era, length of schedule or an excess of bad teams in the league.
This system measures the greatest scorers of all time. I intentionally left out the mediocre players because, honestly, most people don't care about them.
The way it works is this: If you win a scoring title, you get 7 points. 2nd in scoring gets you 6, 3rd is 5 pts, 4 th is 4, 5th is 3, 6th is 2 and 7th in scoring is 1 pt.
What this does is equates a scoring title from any era. Cy Denneny leading the league in 1923-34 with 23 points is the same as Mario Lemieux leading the league in 1991-92 with 131 points. Era, schedule and all the other details are eliminated as factors that would skew the numbers.
The only other factor that must be considered is dominance. What I mean is this: While winning many of his scoring titles, Wayne Gretzky obliterated the competition. He did not win by a point or two, in some cases, he won by as much as 79 points! This is very different from Denneny's 23-24 title or Lemieux's 91-92 title. This kind of dominance must be accounted for.
So, I implemented bonus points. If a player wins a scoring title by 25% or more (making it a raw point number would unfairly skew it in favor of modern day players) he gets 2 points in addition to the 7 for winning the scoring title. If a player wins a scoring title by 50% or more, he gets 4 points in addition to the 7 for winning the title. This helps to account for the amazing dominance that some players (Gretzky, Howe, Esposito, Morenz, Cowley) had on the scoring race during their careers.
So, let me know what you think. Here are the top 50 of all time:
Rank Name PTS
1 Wayne Gretzky 122
2 Gordie Howe 102
3 Mario Lemieux 57
4 Phil Esposito 56
5 Stan Mikita 52
6 Maurice "Rocket "Richard 50
7 Bobby Hull 49
8 Jaromir Jagr 46
Cy Denneny 46
10 Jean Believeau 45
11 Andy Bathgate 40
12 Howie Morenz 38
13 Bobby Orr 37
14 Marcel Dionne 36
15 Guy Lafleur 35
Ted Lindsay 35
17 Cecil " Babe" Dye 31
18 Bill Cowley 30
19 Mike Bossy 28
20 Joe Sakic 27
Doug Bentley 27
22 Charlie Conacher 26
23 Bill Cook 25
24 Bernie Geoffrion 24
Edouard "Newsy" Lalonde 24
26 Frank Boucher 23
27 Elmer Lach 22
Joe Malone 22
Max Bentley 22
30 Nels Stewart 21
David "Sweeney" Schriner 21
32 Peter Stastny 21
33 Harvey "Busher" Jackson 20
Peter Forsberg 20
35 Aurel Joliat 19
Hector "Toe" Blake 19
Marty Barry 19
38 Bryan Trottier 18
Sid Abel 18
Syl Apps, Sr. 18
Teemu Selanne 18
Norm Ullman 18
43 Jari Kurri 17
Paul Coffey 17
Bobby Clarke 17
46 Bryan Hextall, Sr. 16
Markus Naslund 16
Gord Drillon 16
Jean Ratelle 16
50 Paul Kariya 15
Pavel Bure 15
Steve Yzerman 15
Adam Oates 15
This system measures the greatest scorers of all time. I intentionally left out the mediocre players because, honestly, most people don't care about them.
The way it works is this: If you win a scoring title, you get 7 points. 2nd in scoring gets you 6, 3rd is 5 pts, 4 th is 4, 5th is 3, 6th is 2 and 7th in scoring is 1 pt.
What this does is equates a scoring title from any era. Cy Denneny leading the league in 1923-34 with 23 points is the same as Mario Lemieux leading the league in 1991-92 with 131 points. Era, schedule and all the other details are eliminated as factors that would skew the numbers.
The only other factor that must be considered is dominance. What I mean is this: While winning many of his scoring titles, Wayne Gretzky obliterated the competition. He did not win by a point or two, in some cases, he won by as much as 79 points! This is very different from Denneny's 23-24 title or Lemieux's 91-92 title. This kind of dominance must be accounted for.
So, I implemented bonus points. If a player wins a scoring title by 25% or more (making it a raw point number would unfairly skew it in favor of modern day players) he gets 2 points in addition to the 7 for winning the scoring title. If a player wins a scoring title by 50% or more, he gets 4 points in addition to the 7 for winning the title. This helps to account for the amazing dominance that some players (Gretzky, Howe, Esposito, Morenz, Cowley) had on the scoring race during their careers.
So, let me know what you think. Here are the top 50 of all time:
Rank Name PTS
1 Wayne Gretzky 122
2 Gordie Howe 102
3 Mario Lemieux 57
4 Phil Esposito 56
5 Stan Mikita 52
6 Maurice "Rocket "Richard 50
7 Bobby Hull 49
8 Jaromir Jagr 46
Cy Denneny 46
10 Jean Believeau 45
11 Andy Bathgate 40
12 Howie Morenz 38
13 Bobby Orr 37
14 Marcel Dionne 36
15 Guy Lafleur 35
Ted Lindsay 35
17 Cecil " Babe" Dye 31
18 Bill Cowley 30
19 Mike Bossy 28
20 Joe Sakic 27
Doug Bentley 27
22 Charlie Conacher 26
23 Bill Cook 25
24 Bernie Geoffrion 24
Edouard "Newsy" Lalonde 24
26 Frank Boucher 23
27 Elmer Lach 22
Joe Malone 22
Max Bentley 22
30 Nels Stewart 21
David "Sweeney" Schriner 21
32 Peter Stastny 21
33 Harvey "Busher" Jackson 20
Peter Forsberg 20
35 Aurel Joliat 19
Hector "Toe" Blake 19
Marty Barry 19
38 Bryan Trottier 18
Sid Abel 18
Syl Apps, Sr. 18
Teemu Selanne 18
Norm Ullman 18
43 Jari Kurri 17
Paul Coffey 17
Bobby Clarke 17
46 Bryan Hextall, Sr. 16
Markus Naslund 16
Gord Drillon 16
Jean Ratelle 16
50 Paul Kariya 15
Pavel Bure 15
Steve Yzerman 15
Adam Oates 15
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