Stanislasjc
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So we always hear about how some players make their teammates better, but that usually means while they are in the lineup.
What about the kind of players who permanently alter the trajectory of the guys around them? Or guys who altered their own trajectories by studying the master's? Can you think of specific examples of this in hockey history?
I am thinking of how Jacques Plante helped take Bernie Parent to another level when they played together in Toronto.
Or how Marian Hossa deliberately went to Detroit to learn from Datsyuk (among others) and you see Hossa become one of the premier takeaway artists in the league after that.
I believe Messier, Kurri, and Coffey would have never won a cup if they hadn't first played with Wayne. But after playing with Wayne, they were capable of winning without him! It's kind of interesting.
Meanwhile Mario didn't need to learn from Wayne's vision, but he learned from his work ethic in 87.
I think Espo was great independent of Orr, but how much of his greatness came from learning alongside Orr?
Did Oates make guys permanently better, or just give them temporary stat boosts? Like Thornton obviously didn't make Cheecho a perennial Richard threat.
What about the kind of players who permanently alter the trajectory of the guys around them? Or guys who altered their own trajectories by studying the master's? Can you think of specific examples of this in hockey history?
I am thinking of how Jacques Plante helped take Bernie Parent to another level when they played together in Toronto.
Or how Marian Hossa deliberately went to Detroit to learn from Datsyuk (among others) and you see Hossa become one of the premier takeaway artists in the league after that.
I believe Messier, Kurri, and Coffey would have never won a cup if they hadn't first played with Wayne. But after playing with Wayne, they were capable of winning without him! It's kind of interesting.
Meanwhile Mario didn't need to learn from Wayne's vision, but he learned from his work ethic in 87.
I think Espo was great independent of Orr, but how much of his greatness came from learning alongside Orr?
Did Oates make guys permanently better, or just give them temporary stat boosts? Like Thornton obviously didn't make Cheecho a perennial Richard threat.
