Prospect Info: Grand Rapids Griffins Discussion

[Henkka]

Some ice-times from last season:

RD Ryan Murphy 21:27min <-------- Albert Johansson
LD Dan Renouf 19:51 <----------- Simon Edvinsson
RD Seth Barton 19:25
LD Jared McIsaac 19:17
RD Wyatt Newpower 19:05
LD Brian Lashoff 19:05
LD Blake Hillman 17:08 <----------- Eemil Viro
RD Luke Witkowski 17:00 <---------- Steven Kampfer
LD Donovan Sebrango 15:55
LD Butrus Ghafari 14:51 <------- Cedric Laxroix (F/D) or Biakabutuka ?

 

[Henkka]

From last year

1. RW Riley Barber, 20:55min (2.69 p1/60) <------ RW Matt Luff, 19:17 (2.49 p1/60)
2. C Kyle Criscuolo, 19:44min (1.44 p1/60)
3. W Taro Hirose, 19:07min (1.92 p1/60)
4. W Jonatan Berggren 18:56min (2.17 p1/60)
5. C Turner Elson 17:25min (1.75 p1/60) <------ C Austin Czarnik, 18:32min (1.87 p1/60)
6. C Chase Pearson 16:58min (0.92 p1/60)
7. W Gemel Smith 16:34min (1.12 p1/60) <------ W Givani Smith
8. RW Dominik Shine 15:53min (1.33 p1/60)
9. C/LW Tyler Spezia 14:32min (1.34 p1/60)
10. LW Dennis Yan 13:00min (1.07 p1/60) <------ C/LW Pontus Andreasson 18:48min (playoffs, 3.20 p1/60) 15:40min (regular season 2.23 p1/60)
11. Jonathon Martin 12:07min <------ C/RW Joey L'Esperance, 17:28min (2.11 p1/60)
12. Jan Drozg 11:54min <------ W Cross Hanas
13. Josh Dickinson 11:50min <------ C Drew Worrad
14. <------ LW Trenton Bliss
15. <------ LW Kirill Tyutyayev
16. <------ F/D Cedric Lacroix

Berggren - Czarnik - Luff
Hirose - Criscuolo - Smith
Hanas - Andreasson/L'Esperance
Spezia - Worrad - Shine
----------------------
Bliss - Pearson - Tyutyayev

Adding Givani Smith, Pontus Andreasson and Joey L'Esperance instead of those scrubs they'll replace, this will be a very very strong team. also Drew Worrad looked quite strong at pre-seasons.

Like, it won't proably be at 1st line but:
C Austin Czarnik, last 4 seasons, more NHL games than AHL games.
W Givani Smith, last 2 seasons, more NHL games than AHL games.
RW Matt Luff, last 2 seasons, more NHL games than AHL games.

 

[Pavels Dog]

Henkka, where are you getting AHL icetime stats?

 

[Henkka]

Some AHL salaries from our guys:

W Givani Smith 750k (750k at NHL)
C Austin Czarnik 450k (750k at NHL)
RW Matt Luff 350k (750k at NHL)
W Taro Hirose 325k (850k at NHL)
C Kyle Criscuolo 190k (750k at NHL)

RD Steven Kampfer 300k (750k at NHL)

G Jussi Olkinuora 375k (750k at NHL)

 

[lhsgolf19]

 

[bedtime20]

Cossa looking good in GR

 

[jaster]

Henkka, where are you getting AHL icetime stats?

Would like to know this too.

 

[NickH8]

Would like to know this too.

You underestimate the tenacity of Henkka. If there's a paper box score somewhere in the AHL offices he'll find it.

 

[Henkka]

Henkka, where are you getting AHL icetime stats?

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[Henkka]

How is that Pacific Division playoff race gonna work? Division with 10 teams.

Central has 7 teams, North has 7, and Atlantic has 8 teams.

Why are those conferences also imbalanced? 17 teams at Wester Conf and 15 teams at Eastern Conf.

TheAHL.com | The American Hockey League

theahl.com

Grand Rapids is the most Eastern Western Conference Team. Why are they not moving to East? That would cut some Travel.

This is kind of how Detroit was formerly positioned at NHL. A western team before bigger expansion to west, and when that did grow enough big, it was time to move East.

 

[Kingpin794]

How is that Pacific Division playoff race gonna work? Division with 10 teams.

Central has 7 teams, North has 7, and Atlantic has 8 teams.

Why are those conferences also imbalanced? 17 teams at Wester Conf and 15 teams at Eastern Conf.

TheAHL.com | The American Hockey League

theahl.com

Grand Rapids is the most Eastern Western Conference Team. Why are they not moving to East? That would cut some Travel.

This is kind of how Detroit was formerly positioned at NHL. A western team before bigger expansion to west, and when that did grow enough big, it was time to move East.

Easiest solution would be to just move us into the North division and then put Colorado and Calagary into the central.

 

[waltdetroit]

 

[bedtime20]

 

[lhsgolf19]

 

[Henkka]

Berggren - Czarnik - Luff
Hirose - Criscuolo - Smith
Hanas - Andreasson/L'Esperance
Spezia - Worrad - Shine
----------------------
Bliss - Pearson - Tyutyayev

Adding Givani Smith, Pontus Andreasson and Joey L'Esperance instead of those scrubs they'll replace, this will be a very very strong team. also Drew Worrad looked quite strong at pre-seasons.

Looks like my projected lines were pretty close.

Only Hirose and Hanas were different.

McIsaac on the PP instead of Johansson..? hmmm...

 

[NickH8]

Solid looking team there. Interested to see the d pairs. Hopefully Johansson takes priority over some of the vets/low ceiling guys. Smith Crico and Hanas could be a pretty fun line. Smith with the physicality, Crisco the vet, and Hanas with the flash.

 

[lhsgolf19]

updated pairings

 

[NickH8]

updated pairings

McIsaac on the PP but not in here? They're probably experimenting a lot. Lashoff will be a good partner for Johansson.

 

[Holden Caufield]

This looks like a really strong AHL team.
Should be a great season and an ideal spot for our top prospects to be able to produce.

 

[Fil Larkmanthanasiou]

Looks like Biakabutuka didn't accept the Chicago Wolves offer
Scored 2 goals and an assist in his season debut for Charlotteown including the OT winner tonight

 

[lhsgolf19]

Not a surprise


Let's hope Sebastian is the net tomorrow night for Game 2

 

[GoBoltz56]

Not a surprise


Let's hope Sebastian is the net tomorrow night for Game 2

Are they still carrying 3 goalies??? Yikes.

 

[lilidk]

Too many players in both Red Wings and Griffins, something going to happen.

 

[ChadS]

Cossa goes to Toledo with Tyutyayev.

 

[Kingpin794]

Cossa goes to Toledo with Tyutyayev.

I'm good with it as long Cossa is getting pro starts. Goalies take time. Hopefully one of Ned or Husso steps up as the definitive starter that can hold things down for like 3 years.