Spoiled Bratt
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Shero trade a 2nd and a prospect in order for us to not play Stafford or Hayes on a regular basis... that right there is all I need to know to say it was a great move on his part.
Grab's made a ton of sense at the time. High speed goal scoring wing who could kill penalties? I thought it was a slam dunk at the time.
Liked it much better then the Maroon deal.
I've gone complete reversal on that. But I could certainly foresee Grab's scoring some big goals in the playoffs.
The PK was already good before this trade happened.
As I see it, the whole defence of this trade relies on the short-term effects. Sure, if you don't care about long-term effects, it's a good trade (since Rykov and 2nd rounder have zero impact for now) but I'd rather see patient and rational building of the team than going aggressively for the rentals, while we aren't even top 10 team.
The worst trade by Shero as NJD GM?[TBODY] [/TBODY]
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My personal ranking:
L - logic - how much the trade made sense at the time it was made
H - hindsight - how it turned out
T - total
1) Hall trade (L10/H10/T20)
2) Palmieri trade (L8/H10/T18)
3) Vatanen trade (L8/H9/T18)
4) Johansson trade (L8/H4/T12)
5) Mueller trade (L3/H7/T10)
6) Grabner trade (L1/H2/T3)
Wedgewood and Quincey deals weren't significant enough, pick swap with Ottawa can't be judged using "hindsight" ranking so there's that.
*THAT* is the biggest gain from the deadline deals. Addition by subtraction.Plus, him playing means Hayes and Stafford(last night notwithstanding) ISN'T playing.
Thing is: Shero was showing his team that he wants to win now and believes in the squad. Not in a way that it's good enough as it is, but more that he is willing to give up a little bit of the future for present success. I am sure this helps guys like Hall to play better and it isn't really all that important that Grabner scores like he did with the Rangers. Besides, we're in the Playoffs, so Shero was right to make the deal. It's that easy.
Not to mention Grabner can turn it on in the playoffsI mean, can you imagine if Shero had that 4 hour dinner or whatever with Hall and Hall comes back and scores 93 points, and the deadline comes and goes and Shero just shrugs his shoulders?
The trade hasn't worked so far, I wasn't a fan of it when it was announced, but now I understand it much better. You ask your best player for more and he delivers in spades, you don't leave him hanging when the team is fighting to make the postseason.
Lurk around here and jump on the bandwagon!NYI fan here.
I agree with your first sentence. It’s important to reward your team when they earn it, and I think in the Devils’ case, they earned it.
I think it helps keep your team motivated when your manager recognizes your success and rewards it. Shero was smart about it and didn’t even use a 1st.
I’m sure guys like Bratt and Wood are watching Grabner and taking bits away from his game.
His PK prowess should help in the playoffs, and hopefully Maroon just plays his game (which is basically what Jimmy Hayes wishes he could be/Stafford has been washed up for years).
Good luck in the playoffs folks. My GF recently accepted a job in North Jersey from down in Florida and is relocating up to the area. With the news that the NYI owners are keeping Snow/Weight, I may just end up converting to a Devils fan.
Is there a source on that beyond pure speculation? Our fans only started saying that after we traded him.
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I'm basically keeping my mouth shut on this trade because I really liked Rykov, and I really like the second round.
Lurk around here and jump on the bandwagon!
What's not shown is his presence and impact(without the shg scored) on the PK.
Plus, him playing means Hayes and Stafford(last night notwithstanding) ISN'T playing.
I think the above two make the trade worth it, despite him being a streaky player. Would rather have HIM on the ice than Stafford or Friggin' Hayes.
I mean, can you imagine if Shero had that 4 hour dinner or whatever with Hall and Hall comes back and scores 93 points, and the deadline comes and goes and Shero just shrugs his shoulders?
The trade hasn't worked so far, I wasn't a fan of it when it was announced, but now I understand it much better. You ask your best player for more and he delivers in spades, you don't leave him hanging when the team is fighting to make the postseason.
If he gets some key goals that help us win the series, the trade was well worth it. He's been disappointing, but he has been getting his chances. He's always been a guy that has trouble converting on his breakaways, but he's failed on like all of them with us. A few big goals against Tampa and I'll forgive him. On paper Shero made a fair trade, I can't blast him because Grabner has been snakebitten.I’d love to see the reaction around here if the rangers made a trade that bombed and their fans said it was ok because it was a great psychological move.
the bottom line is that so far, the trade hasn’t worked out. at all. you can’t win em all. to justify it as a psychological win or a good trade because it keeps hayes out (as if we don’t have players in Binghamton we couldn’t have called up to make a grabber-like impact) is kinda embarrassing
On paper Shero made a fair trade
I’d love to see the reaction around here if the rangers made a trade that bombed and their fans said it was ok because it was a great psychological move.
the bottom line is that so far, the trade hasn’t worked out. at all. you can’t win em all. to justify it as a psychological win or a good trade because it keeps hayes out (as if we don’t have players in Binghamton we couldn’t have called up to make a grabber-like impact) is kinda embarrassing
My point stands: saying the trade "made no sense" is just not being truthful and trying to stir the pot. The trade absolutely made sense.
i don't know about that. like i said, it was fair value-wise, but given our abundance of LW's, i can't say that it made sense. thankfully, we didn't give up that much for him so it's not a big deal