Inferno
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Yeah but he did get hedman kucherov and stammer to all sign at under market vlaue...mcd too. Some really great contracts for that club.
Of course there's also some atrocious ones too.
Gorton vs Yzerman
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Of course there's also some atrocious ones too.
Lone Ranger
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I voted for Yzerman because if we had him now, he could activate himself, and probably be our best forward.
Edge
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I think he’s done a good job of assembling a team on paper, but the jury is still on whether he built a championship team. We’ve noted numerous times that TB has never captured that team of destiny look and it continues to bite them in the ass.
But the fact of the matter is that things become a wee bit easier when you have two elite players, both under the age 21, already on the roster as you walk in the door.
That’s not a throwaway fact that we can just overlook.
That’s great he signed them to below market deals, but they were still there in the first place.
Amazing Kreiderman
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It's a lot easier to get those players to agree to those deals in Florida, Nevada or Texas.
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That’s why I’m eyeing Florida.
Having lived in a state without income tax (Nevada), I miss it.
Besides, I can’t find good Cuban food in this part of PA.
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Seattle will have the same advantage when they join the league.
We can't know. Gorton's legacy will be decided in like 3-4 years from now.
Pavel Buchnevich
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Not defending my GM, but his legacy will be decided by Chytil, Andersson, Kravtsov, our next pic. He could end up the greatest Rangers's GM of all time or the worst one. Time will decide.
ReggieDunlop68
hey hanrahan!
The Rings argument reminds me of when some said Hasek wasn't great because he didn't have a ring.
Blueblood9
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This idea of yzerman absolutely bending gorton over in trades is outrageous.
The msl trade got us to the cup final and the team would never of made it that far without him. I'd make that trade 10 times out of 10.
The mcd trade based on what Karlsson trade was a home run. And I'd say even more then a win in either direction.
Gorton has a plan and is following it and will continue to rebuild this team to a contender. Based on his track record in boston when he was AGM and interim GM I have the faith hell get us there.
The msl trade got us to the cup final and the team would never of made it that far without him. I'd make that trade 10 times out of 10.
The mcd trade based on what Karlsson trade was a home run. And I'd say even more then a win in either direction.
Gorton has a plan and is following it and will continue to rebuild this team to a contender. Based on his track record in boston when he was AGM and interim GM I have the faith hell get us there.
Edge
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Hasek had a track record of excellence despite his team.
Lil' Stevie's track record tends to be teams that often did not look like the sum of their parts.
So, just a wee bit of a difference there.
I understand the topic, but I feel it`s not necessary to judge Jeff on one particular trade with Ryan Mc. and compare the two GM`s is not fair in my opinion towards Jeff.
I`m actually very pleased with Jeff Gorton GMìng, and glad that Spooner got a new contract here among other things since he played so well for us end of last season, and a similar situation for Hayes glad he got that one year contract at least to see him for another season here since he played so well too. I`m optimistic that Hayes improve this year concerning overall production, because his development was great end of last season as well.
I`m actually very pleased with Jeff Gorton GMìng, and glad that Spooner got a new contract here among other things since he played so well for us end of last season, and a similar situation for Hayes glad he got that one year contract at least to see him for another season here since he played so well too. I`m optimistic that Hayes improve this year concerning overall production, because his development was great end of last season as well.
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FoxysExpensiveNYDigs
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Most people rejected his message
Can we accurately discern whether Yzerman would be a significant enough improvement over Gorton to offset the turmoil caused by firing the GM on the drop of a hat?
IMO, no. Stick it out with Gortsy.
IMO, no. Stick it out with Gortsy.
SingnBluesOnBroadway
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That's one of the reasons I couldn't place a vote at this time. It's like comparing apples and oranges at this point.
JT Kreider
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Yzerman inherited Stamkos and Hedman. Two of the most important building blocks in hockey are an elite high end franchise center and an elite high end franchise defenseman.
That will be the most important task for Gorton, especially the former. We could sign Panarin and Karlsson but we won't win a Cup until we fill that giant hole up the middle. Richards/Stepan/Brassard just wasn't good enough. Great depth but we were lacking that one true gamebreaker that would have put us over the top....
....That said, just compare the state of the franchise from when we got obliterated by the Penguins in 2016 to now. We had an aging core with bad contracts and no prospects other than Buchnevich, Skjei and Shestyorkin.
In two short years Gorton has gotten us out of cap hell and built one of the best young cores in the league. I can't wait to see where we are a year from now if we can add our first top 5 draft pick in OVER 20 YEARS and the progression of Buchnevich, Skjei, Andersson, Chytil, Howden, Hajek in the organization and hopefully bringing Kravstov over.
Plus we are still owed a pick from Tampa. And we should get some nice futures too if we trade Zuccarello, Spooner, Namestnikov, etc.
That will be the most important task for Gorton, especially the former. We could sign Panarin and Karlsson but we won't win a Cup until we fill that giant hole up the middle. Richards/Stepan/Brassard just wasn't good enough. Great depth but we were lacking that one true gamebreaker that would have put us over the top....
....That said, just compare the state of the franchise from when we got obliterated by the Penguins in 2016 to now. We had an aging core with bad contracts and no prospects other than Buchnevich, Skjei and Shestyorkin.
In two short years Gorton has gotten us out of cap hell and built one of the best young cores in the league. I can't wait to see where we are a year from now if we can add our first top 5 draft pick in OVER 20 YEARS and the progression of Buchnevich, Skjei, Andersson, Chytil, Howden, Hajek in the organization and hopefully bringing Kravstov over.
Plus we are still owed a pick from Tampa. And we should get some nice futures too if we trade Zuccarello, Spooner, Namestnikov, etc.
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