TSN: Gord Miller / Jamie Noodles McLennan give their opinion on Michael Bunting
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Nah - I think Bunting will end up in the bottom six after all is said and done. I don't think hes going to replace Hyman - but it took a while before Hyman was as effective as he is now as a player - and Hyman was just a random prospect they got for McKegg until he wasn't really.
They need to draft/develop the next Hyman for sure. I wouldn't bet on Bunting being that guy but he should still be an effective depth guy for them.
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Not sure if it will be Bunting, but there's no reason Matthews/Marner shouldn't be able to form a good top line with one of the left wingers the Leafs signed. Hyman's contributions to the top line are heavily overrated. A bigger concern is what the 3rd line will be like if they can't send Hyman down to carry it
He can't do worse than Hyman in the playoffs, so not sure why they think there are some big shoes to fill.
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I would give him 4th best odds of making top 6 behind Ritchie, Mikheyev and Kerfoot.
There is a reason why he is signed to a contract under One mil.
If he has potential to become a top line player, other teams would have offered him 2mil and gamble to see if he can reach those potentials.
I think Kase will be the guy on AM and MM line. As he scores in traffic, tough and once thought to be a 30goals scorer, his only problem is staying healthy.
If he has potential to become a top line player, other teams would have offered him 2mil and gamble to see if he can reach those potentials.
I think Kase will be the guy on AM and MM line. As he scores in traffic, tough and once thought to be a 30goals scorer, his only problem is staying healthy.
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If Kase is healthy he could end up top 6 by years end, but he is a pure right winger, so i'd give him longer odds.
If he's in the top 6 it likely means Willie has slid over to left, or we are going three deep on the lines.
Willie - Matthews/Tavares - Kase
Bunting - Kampf - Anderson would be a great youngish 4th line with a little bite, problem is lots of people out of place (Spezza, Simmonds, Mik, Kerf, etc) then for a third line?
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Usually, when O'Dog makes a prediction, the exact opposite happens. Therefore, I think Bunting is going to be the next Hyman now, for sure.
Pretty close to a PPG in the AHL over a few years
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10 Goals in 20 games in the show last year.
He is a perfect later bloomer. He is going to score 25 with 50-60 points in a top 6 role.
Score huge in the O
10 Goals in 20 games in the show last year.
He is a perfect later bloomer. He is going to score 25 with 50-60 points in a top 6 role.
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The definition of another Human is pretty vague. I'd also say Hyman when Babcock was here and what he has become the last 2 years is quite different. I hated him on the top line with his no hands. But he has steadily improved and I didn't feel he was too out of place the last couple of years.
Can bunting be a 20goal scorer on the top line? Maybe, I'd hope whoever plays on that top line should be able to.
Is he going to to be a player fans are super polarized over if he plays on that line? Is that what our hope for him is?
Can bunting be a 20goal scorer on the top line? Maybe, I'd hope whoever plays on that top line should be able to.
Is he going to to be a player fans are super polarized over if he plays on that line? Is that what our hope for him is?
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Pretty sure the Leafs signed him as a UFA. Any reason why you think Arizona wouldn't have wanted to retain him?
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Because they currently have around $12M in cap space. It would have been dead easy for the Coyotes to outbid the Leafs.
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How does overspending on a player make sense to a team struggling financially?
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I'm hoping he can sort of fill the role. Not as Last season's version of Hyman more like season one or two Hyman. Having said that Bunting will not be the exact same player he will be stronger in some areas and weaker in others. What I am hoping for is a player that can provide some hustle, puck retrieval and some defensive awareness like Hyman did. I also expect Bunting to have a better touch around the net than Hyman (I know Hyman got 20+, hoping for the same from Bunting but with less complete misses at point blank scoring chances like Hyman)
OK, now I'll read the rest of the thread...
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Expectations are likely too high.
I would hope for a gritty 15gl/35pt type, but even that's no guarantee.
I would hope for a gritty 15gl/35pt type, but even that's no guarantee.
Hyman was way over rated here. Good kid. Worked hard. Got better.
got injured. Got paid. He isn’t the loss thar people think.
got injured. Got paid. He isn’t the loss thar people think.
And they may have done so, considering that Bunting said he had offers higher than the Leaf offer. But Bunting also has to want to play there.
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You can't miss something until its gone and Zach Hyman will be missed.
2020-21 - Zach Hyman ... 43 games 15 goals 18 assists 33 points [= 82 games 29 goals 34 assists 63 points] pace on full season.** With only 3 goals 2 assists via PP time ***
It easier said than done to pull a 26 year old, 6 year career minor leaguer with 14 NHL points to his name out from AHL, and toss him on a top 6 line and think results will be the same and get him for <$1 ml.
2020-21 - Zach Hyman ... 43 games 15 goals 18 assists 33 points [= 82 games 29 goals 34 assists 63 points] pace on full season.** With only 3 goals 2 assists via PP time ***
It easier said than done to pull a 26 year old, 6 year career minor leaguer with 14 NHL points to his name out from AHL, and toss him on a top 6 line and think results will be the same and get him for <$1 ml.
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I have to note that the idea that leafs fans collectively think Bunting can definitely replace Hyman is in fact a straw man.
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