Post-Game Talk: Golden Slumbers

[egelband]

I voted for Zibanejad. I know his shot caused some collateral but I thought he was a factor.

I did too. He has man’d-up the past couple of weeks. He still does Mika things on offense but at least he’s playing physical, making things happening.

 

[mrmovies779]

I am warming up to Borgen.

So am i.hes really physical and does a nice job moving the puck.Hes also a very good skater who pinches smartly in the o-zone

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Anyone worried that Kreider will come back and it'll all go back to hell?

Mika has looked as good as he's looked in years for me. Like literally looks better than he even looked last year. The guy is a complete headcase but at least he's a good player now.

 

[mrmovies779]

I did too. He has man’d-up the past couple of weeks. He still does Mika things on offense but at least he’s playing physical, making things happening.

His compete level these past few weeks is night and day compared to the rest of his season.

 

[JimmyG89]

$21M in deadline cap space, who are we getting?

 

[mrmovies779]

Anyone worried that Kreider will come back and it'll all go back to hell?

Mika has looked as good as he's looked in years for me. Like literally looks better than he even looked last year. The guy is a complete headcase but at least he's a good player now.

Even in wins you can't stop with the negativity.Give it a rest man.

 

[Mugless]

$21M in deadline cap space, who are we getting?

I don't know who we're getting, but we're trading every 2nd rounder until 2050.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Even in wins you can't stop with the negativity.Give it a rest man.

And you skipped my part about Mika.

Also, I don't quite get it. I get negative during losses and I flip my shit on Igor. But I am not nearly the most negative person when we win. I'm usually pretty damn positive while everyone here is whinning about how they didn't deserve to win.

 

[egelband]

Anyone worried that Kreider will come back and it'll all go back to hell?

Mika has looked as good as he's looked in years for me. Like literally looks better than he even looked last year. The guy is a complete headcase but at least he's a good player now.

Kind of. I mean, he has earned the benefit of the doubt. But honestly, watching Mika play so well separated from Kreider has opened my eyes. If Laviolette keeps Kreider in a strictly 3rd line/special teams role I think it works.

 

[ArPanet]

Rangers played well tonight bc they all want to be traded to Vegas.

 

[17futurecap]

If the Rangers started the season with Fox and a free agent, Miller and Borgen, and Vak and Schneider, they would have been right with the metro teams.

Drury should have forced the Trouba issue in the summer.

 

[EdJovanovski]

I don't know why I thought they lost in Toronto earlier this year but you're right.

His impact is still negligible and he still sucks.

Hm, he assisted on the GWG and was in their heads all night.
Since his NHL debut (reg season + playoffs combined)
With Rempe: 26-6-3
Without Rempe: 21-26-1

 

[mrmovies779]

And you skipped my part about Mika.

Also, I don't quite get it. I get negative during losses and I flip my shit on Igor. But I am not nearly the most negative person when we win. I'm usually pretty damn positive while everyone here is whinning about how they didn't deserve to win.

You called Mika mentally soft,just like you did Igor a few posts before that.Thats negative.it gets tiring every single day from you.enjoy a hard fought win.Think Happy Thoughts like the late great Bob Ross

 

[SnowblindNYR]

You called Mika mentally soft,just like you did Igor a few posts before that.Thats negative.it gets tiring every single day from you.enjoy a hard fought win.Think Happy Thoughts like the late great Bob Ross

Dude, when the Rangers were 12-4-1 fans complained every time they won because it wasn't pretty enough. Hell they did so last year when they won the Presidents' Trophy. I do far less of "negative posts when winning" than the vast majority of posters here. You're singling me out because I criticize Igor a lot.

 

[Boris Zubov]

If the Rangers started the season with Fox and a free agent, Miller and Borgen, and Vak and Schneider, they would have been right with the metro teams.

Drury should have forced the Trouba issue in the summer.

And the Lindgren situation

 

[Guyute]

Great win. Re-sign Borgen please!!

He’s like a more mobile but less truculent Kevin Klein.

Very useful player.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Hm, he assisted on the GWG and was in their heads all night.
Since his NHL debut (reg season + playoffs combined)
With Rempe: 26-6-3
Without Rempe: 21-26-1

I've made this point already. But there is literally no logic to taking stats since his debut and not including stats from before his debut last season. This season is a small sample size where the team is playing much better defensively lately. Nothing to do with Rempe. Last season you and other Rempe Stans decided that only games since he entered the lineup counted but somehow the same team's wins from before he entered the lineup didn't count. Also do you really think that Rempe is solely responsible for a 25 game swing in the standings? I guarantee you that there is not one player that would be solely responsible for a 25 game swing in the standings in the NHL. No, not McDavid, not Kucherov, and not McKinnon.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Anyone worried that Kreider will come back and it'll all go back to hell?

Mika has looked as good as he's looked in years for me. Like literally looks better than he even looked last year. The guy is a complete headcase but at least he's a good player now.

Kreider can come back and be ass and he'll get blamed for them losing if that happens.

He'll get blamed for it even if he comes back and plays well.

Truth is, they've got some tough stylistic matchups for them on the horizon - even in the form of teams that aren't that good.

If they lose against Colorado thats well... expected. They do things really well that this team is really bad at defending and there really isn't a whole lot the Rangers can do to stop them from doing it.

If they're stupid enough to get into a track meet with Utah, Philly, etc who will 10000% try to get the Rangers to take the bait there (and they almost always do) they're going to drop games in that batch too and that won't be Kreider's fault but if he comes back and that happens we know where the blame is going.

Hm, he assisted on the GWG and was in their heads all night.
Since his NHL debut (reg season + playoffs combined)
With Rempe: 26-6-3
Without Rempe: 21-26-1

He threw a knuckleball across the ice that was a tough handle for Brodzinski lol. I mean good for him I guess but he had little impact on this win and had even less of one the other night where he was legitimately awful. He's barely an average AHL player.

Last year has nothing to do with this year.

 

[Siddi]

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Kreider can come back and be ass and he'll get blamed for them losing if that happens.

He'll get blamed for it even if he comes back and plays well.

Truth is, they've got some tough stylistic matchups for them on the horizon - even in the form of teams that aren't that good.

If they lose against Colorado thats well... expected. They do things really well that this team is really bad at defending and there really isn't a whole lot the Rangers can do to stop them from doing it.

If they're stupid enough to get into a track meet with Utah, Philly, etc who will 10000% try to get the Rangers to take the bait there (and they almost always do) they're going to drop games in that batch too and that won't be Kreider's fault.





He threw a knuckleball across the ice that was a tough handle for Brodzinski lol. I mean good for him I guess but he had little impact on this win and had even less of one the other night where he was legitimately awful. He's barely an average AHL player.

Last year has nothing to do with this year.

Dude, last year Rempe just happened to join the Rangers on an upswing and people were soiling themselves as if he was responsible for it. Ignoring the fact that they were a top 5 at worst team in the NHL before that because it was before he joined the team. I can't tell if the logical reasoning on this board is THIS bad or some people think they'll pull a fast one on us to win an argument.

 

[egelband]

Hm, he assisted on the GWG and was in their heads all night.
Since his NHL debut (reg season + playoffs combined)
With Rempe: 26-6-3
Without Rempe: 21-26-1

Good point. Vegas absolutely made some uncharacteristically bad passes/dumps with Rempe flying around.
Obviously there’s a lot of hyperbole but I definitely think Rempe is consequential and when he plays smart, a positive.

 

[EdJovanovski]

I've made this point already. But there is literally no logic to taking stats since his debut and not including stats from before his debut last season. This season is a small sample size where the team is playing much better defensively lately. Nothing to do with Rempe. Last season you and other Rempe Stans decided that only games since he entered the lineup counted but somehow the same team's wins from before he entered the lineup didn't count. Also do you really think that Rempe is solely responsible for a 25 game swing in the standings? I guarantee you that there is not one player that would be solely responsible for a 25 game swing in the standings in the NHL. No, not McDavid, not Kucherov, and not McKinnon.

Because that is comparing how they do in the same timeframe where there are less variables, Rempe coming in and out of the lineup. Instead of comparing the team to several months prior. But even if we want to go back and count the entire season last year...
With Rempe: 26-6-3 (.743%)
Without Rempe: 21-26-1 (.438%)
Without Rempe including entire last season: 56-42-4 (.549%)

30.5% swing when Rempe plays since his call up, and still a 19.4% swing when Rempe plays since the start of the 2023-24 season.

The results speak for themselves. Stop resisting it.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Because that is comparing how they do in the same timeframe where there are less variables, Rempe coming in and out of the lineup. Instead of comparing the team to several months prior. But even if we want to go back and count the entire season last year...
With Rempe: 26-6-3 (.743%)
Without Rempe: 21-26-1 (.438%)
Without Rempe including entire last season: 56-42-4 (.549%)

30.5% swing when Rempe plays since his call up, and still a 19.4% swing when Rempe plays since the start of the 2023-24 season.

The results speak for themselves. Stop resisting it.

Rempe happened to join the team last year on an upswing. He was lucky enough not to be there during a two month stretch when the team forgot to play hockey and Igor forgot how to play goalie. Once again, it's a clown take to say that a 4th liner is responsible for a 19.4% swing. Do you not know the concept of correlation not equaling causation? Have you ever taken a basic statistics class?

 

[EdJovanovski]

Rempe happened to join the team last year on an upswing. He was lucky enough not to be there during a two month stretch when the team forgot to play hockey and Igor forgot how to play goalie. Once again, it's a clown take to say that a 4th liner is responsible for a 19.4% swing. Do you not know the concept of correlation not equaling causation? Have you ever taken a basic statistics class?

I don't think he just became some viral TikTok sensation, the most viewed player on social media; more than McDavid or Bedard and the crowd chanting his name and going nuts when he's just waived in to take a face-off; for nothing. He has an effect on the energy of the game, the crowd, the intimidation, the swagger the team plays with. Shesterkin talked about it in a podcast he was on. Laviolette said he'd never seen anything like Rempe. He brings joy. He is everything the Rangers missed. Yes I absolutely think having a player like that can make such a big difference and so far... the people on my side of this argument have been right. How long of a sample size until it's accepted? Should we change it up now that we're back to winning because you think we may be wrong? Or just enjoy the ride while we're winning?

 

[SnowblindNYR]

I don't think he just became some viral TikTok sensation, the most viewed player on social media; more than McDavid or Bedard and the crowd chanting his name and going nuts when he's just waived in to take a face-off; for nothing. He has an effect on the energy of the game, the crowd, the intimidation, the swagger the team plays with. Shesterkin talked about it in a podcast he was on. Laviolette said he'd never seen anything like Rempe. He brings joy. He is everything the Rangers missed. Yes I absolutely think having a player like that can make such a big difference and so far... the people on my side of this argument have been right. How long of a sample size until it's accepted? Should we change it up now that we're back to winning because you think we may be wrong? Or just enjoy the ride while we're winning?

Dude, you're one of my favorite posters here. But you're like the anti-machinehead. Your posts are completely devoid of logic sometimes. You realize that popularity by fans, many of whom are dumb AF has no correlation with effectiveness? He became popular because he's huge, hits, and is a willing fighter. Not because he's some amazing player. Most fans like Rempe types more than Fox types. I guess Rempe is a better player than Fox.