Post-Game Talk: [GM55] Canucks defeat Maple Leafs | 2-1 | Hronek & Boeser | Dead Leafs on the Dirty Ground

[potatowejj]

Id never say this on the main boards because I'd drown in Leaf angy tears before getting permabanned but...

Whenever I see Nylander out there I am super happy as a fan of the opposing team. He does NOTHING defensively but will wander in the slot and be a screen for his goalie. Its funny how many times Chytil or Petey legit used him as a pick or manipulated his position in the slot to create chances for us.

Auston Matthews is also incredibly overrated. I know hes been injured this year and hes not been in rhythm but he does so little to dictate games compared to guys like McDavid, Mackinnon, Kucherov, Draisaitl, Quinn Hughes, etc. Hes more of a clutch scorer than he is a legit generational "takes over games" type of guy. Hes the best goalscorer of the current generation, but he isnt in that top tier with McDavid.

On the Canucks end of things, Petey with a super strong game, if he creates that many scoring chances while also shutting people down and making clutch plays like the one to end the game, I dont care if he only puts up a single assist (though with that many chances created he will get more points if he does it consistently). You can win with a guy like that if he does that much possession and disruption and play creation all over the ice. If he does that when Quinn Hughes is back (big if), then we might be fine.

And he certainly doesn't take over games like Alex Ovechkin did when he was Matthews' age.

 

[AlainVigneaultsGum]

Of course they look f***ing fantastic in the last game before the break. Gonna be antsy af waiting for the next one now lmao. Good game from pretty much everyone.

 

[December5th]

not only winning but outside of yesterday, canucks have looked like the better team in every game

 

[Vector]

Isn't the song Dead Leaves AND the Dirty Ground?

It’s also Leaves and not Leafs but On is funnier than And in this case.

 

[Vector]

I think every Pettersson hit a post tonight.

 

[CanucksMJL]

I'm reading alot of takes about Petey that seem to be missing the point. The old Petey is still in there and we just saw it. The terrifying idea that he's forever this 55pt disappointment with no possibility of redemption is dead. He lives.

 

[TruGr1t]

Hronek #1D power-up.

 

[AlainVigneaultsGum]

I think every Pettersson bit a post tonight.

Ouch

 

[God]

hronek has always been good, it's just that now people don't get to watch quinn outplay him

 

[wonton15]

The vibes are so much better on this board when the team is playing like this. Man I love this team and board

 

[Nuckles]

I was 100% expecting the Leafs to score after this

 

[potatowejj]

Can't believe I'm saying this but we may have a top 5 D corps in the league adding Hughes back to this mix + assuming the Petterssons continue to play well.

 

[AlainVigneaultsGum]

hronek has always been good, it's just that now people don't get to watch quinn outplay him

100%. He was just as good as he is now before he got hurt.

 

[Vector]

Ouch

Well that’s an embarrassing typo.

 

[bob77]

Forbort has played really well btw

His only minus in 11 games now was the Toffoli goal assisted by Chytil in a 6 on 5 goalie pull. No even up minuses. At about 18 minutes a night. D zone starts, etc. And PK. He’s not coming out of the lineup.

 

[VanJack]

Watching Elias Pettersson II on the blueline, count me as being absolutely gob-smacked. I mean where did this kid come from? No way anybody could have predicted he'd be so good, so fast.

He's reminding me of a young Oliver Ekman-Larsson, during his salad days in Arizona. How can you take him out of the lineup?

To me, unless it's a mirage, D-Petey is one of the most encouraging things about this season so far.

 

[iFan]

I'm reading alot of takes about Petey that seem to be missing the point. The old Petey is still in there and we just saw it. The terrifying idea that he's forever this 55pt disappointment with no possibility of redemption is dead. He lives.

My concern with him is his mental toughness, he shut down on us for a year. He had a good game but I need to see him build off that and be that 11.6 million dollar player. He’s trending the right way after this one game

 

[bbud]

Fun game and shows Canucks can play with anyone the fact they were that good without Hughes is amazing

 

[Vector]

hronek has always been good, it's just that now people don't get to watch quinn outplay him

He’s also not deferring on the breakouts or in the offensive zone so the puck is on his stick more often.

 

[arttk]

I think the people willing to oust Soucy to make room for Willander are silly af.

I don’t think it’s to make room for Willander, it’s to make room for Dpetey

 

[ephmrl]

I'm reading alot of takes about Petey that seem to be missing the point. The old Petey is still in there and we just saw it. The terrifying idea that he's forever this 55pt disappointment with no possibility of redemption is dead. He lives.

Very relieving seeing him play like this. Easy to forget during his long stretches of looking like a 3c. Hopefully he can dial in over the next couple weeks and come out of the Four Nations with a bit of confidence to help with our playoff push.

 

[Diversification]

I think the addition of MP3, EP2, O'Connor and Chytl has something to do with it dude

smh

It did. But it's probably not nothing that in response to the change in the room, Tocchet keeps mentioning that the players want to be coached.

 

[The Stig]

Sometimes you gotta love it. Canucks beat the Leafs on HNIC. Watched it with a Scotch in hand, by the fire, snow on the ground, dog destroying his new toy....it was a good day.

 

[geebster]

And he certainly doesn't take over games like Alex Ovechkin did when he was Matthews' age.

Dude... young/early prime Ovechkin was SO scary. Everytime he got the puck you felt it. When you went to games the crowd legit went quiet for a second. Reminded me of seeing Bure when I was a kid. Matthews is very much a dependent star. He would be an amazing 2nd star on a cup winning team though. Matthews in a Draisaitl type role would be insane (which is basically the role he plays with Marner). But he aint Ovechkin.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

gotta admit, that marner hold on the blueline at the end was impressive

mp3 with the stefan, oof

lankinen omg

this was exactly the kind of game we would have lost in OT for most of the year