Post-Game Talk: [GM54} Canucks defeat Sharks | 2-1 (OT) | Joshua & O’Connor | Don’t Ask How Many, Just How

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Their breakouts look better but they have very little going offensively.

This should not happen against the Sharks:

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We simply don't have enough talents on the team, and the few talents we have are playing like 3rd liners.

We have generated some offense since the JTM trade due to additional speed and excitement/enthusiasm, but that can only carry you so far. Eventually the true talent level shows and catches up. Hughes coming back will obviously help big time, but if your best forward is Chytil/Garland, your team is screwed (no offense to Chytil or Garland, they are good players, but they should be your 3rd-4th best forwards, at best). Until Petey/Brock/JDB shows up, this is the kind of offense we should be expecting.
 
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The Pettersson thing is just insane at this point. And the problem is that the longer that it continues the worse a potential return will be. Great that we're able to grind out some wins with the injection of new players, but we are going nowhere fast without this situation being remedied one way or another.
 
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The thing with EP40 is that defensively his play is still strong. I do think there is a luck component to it of late. Last night was an exception but the last few weeks the offensive side of things has looked better. Heck the numbers from last night has that line at 75% scoring chance share....the issue is they were soooo low event (3 SCF and 1 SCA).

I still don't know what to think injury wise with Pettersson. The condition, if I can call it that, is one that can be frustrating. I have the same in my left knee. Sunday at hockey it hurt like hell. Out of nowhere. It has been fine for quite some time. Tuesday in the gym was almost unbearable. This morning in the gym it was like I never I had the issue. No pain at all. Not even small amounts of discomfort. It's truly bizarre.

The line that actually struggled the most last night was the Chytil line. Chytil had a rough game I thought. Not horrible but easily the worst of his first three.

All that said...the team does appear to slowly be turning the corner overall. Which is good. Playoffs are fully in their hands..which is a bit shocking to be honest given the injuries and locker room turmoil.

I want to see all the 4 Nations guys pull themselves from the tourney. Use the time to rest and heal.
 
I think this is the most logical sentiment to have. I have zero feelings towards the strongest of doubters or the strongest of supporters. There’s genuinely no clear solutions. It’s just f***ed. I feel apathetic.

I also feel for him. Like he’s trying defensively but just looks so lost out there offensively. Genuinely nearing two calendar years now since he was last on top of his game.. the stretch run of 22-23.
This is how I feel as well. The whole situation is way too mysterious and odd for me to have any real take on it, personally (other than that it may be right to trade him just to get rid of the distraction of whatever is happening). If he's injured, what the hell are they doing with him, why wouldn't it be acknowledged, and why wouldn't he be rested for it, and if he's just a prima-donna who's stopped caring, why the hell is he still good defensively and the top forward shot-blocker on the team (that can't possibly be the lazy auto-pilot way to play, can it?), while the two obvious areas causing his struggles (footspeed and hesitance to shoot) are somewhat consistent with a knee-related injury? From my perspective, it seems like a pretty far cry from how Yashin looked when he obviously stopped caring and was just collecting a pay-check (or even how Pettersson himself looked when he had that clear mental block a few years ago).
 
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I'm somewhat convinced that Toch's system is depressing Petey's numbers (along with the entire team). The Canucks are dead last in the NHL at 5v5 xGF%. That is a symptom of a coaching problem

That's not to say that he's not also struggling, but i wonder how much his production would change if he moved to a different team or we had a different coach

As of now, the Canucks entire game plan seems to revolve around setting up Quinn. Even when he's not in the lineup the gameplan is the same (get pucks to the point and collapse all the forwards in front of the net)
 
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Petey can't skate. He's had a lower body issue objectively affecting his skating for a long time. That's not exactly conducive to the 3v3 game. I don't think it's that surprising.
To be fair, if it was "objectively" affecting his skating we wouldn't have dozens or hundreds of different posters arguing ad nauseum over this very issue.

I definitely agree that he does look slower, and this is consistent with the NHL edge data, but he also just doesn't move his feet enough or attack with the puck the way he did before. Everything about him looks off. He used to deke players while basically standing still and he never does that anymore either.
 
To be fair, if it was "objectively" affecting his skating we wouldn't have dozens or hundreds of different posters arguing ad nauseum over this very issue.

I definitely agree that he does look slower, and this is consistent with the NHL edge data, but he also just doesn't move his feet enough or attack with the puck the way he did before. Everything about him looks off. He used to deke players while basically standing still and he never does that anymore either.
Yes. His skating is objectively slower than the first half of last season or seasons prior, according to NHL Edge.

Look at him pivot or try to spin off a check. Or even when he tries to do a deke. He can't. His feet don't explode fast enough. We've certainly seen him deke guys out of their shorts in other seasons.

The alternative explanation to a physical ailment is that after 6 seasons of being a high-end offensive player, he just doesn't want to anymore. He wants to get checked when trying to beat guys. He wants to have weaker shots. I mean, alright. That's a take you can have I guess.
 

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