Post-Game Talk: [GM46] Canucks lose to Sabres | 2-3 (PDG & Pettersson) | Stupid Cousins

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couldn't watch the game, but I've got a caveat to place on a firmly held belief of mine, which is that one of the most important things we need to do is give Hronek his own pair and actually work out what he is. but the caveat is: don't try that when Tyler Myers just got suspended and Mark Friedman is the guy you'll put with Hughes instead of Hronek

I don't have any hate for Friedman, I wouldn't mind him getting more games, but maybe wait until Myers comes back until sending Hronek off to the second pair
 
Much like with Bruce, how long can you just keep letting these things happen and have no changes. Like I get patience but there comes a point where you need to nut up and make a call.
 
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couldn't watch the game, but I've got a caveat to place on a firmly held belief of mine, which is that one of the most important things we need to do is give Hronek his own pair and actually work out what he is. but the caveat is: don't try that when Tyler Myers just got suspended and Mark Friedman is the guy you'll put with Hughes instead of Hronek

I don't have any hate for Friedman, I wouldn't mind him getting more games, but maybe wait until Myers comes back until sending Hronek off to the second pair

The issue is you then run with a bottom 4 of:

Soucy Friedman
Forbort Desharnais

So based on that they felt forced to move Hronek down and I don't blame them.
 
Canucks offensive strategy: grind it out and wait for Hughes to create something.

No creativity, no speed, low skill, low event, safe boring ineffective hockey.

Get back to the fast heavy north-south skating team. Play with speed, tempo, and passion!
 
At some point, people are going to get tired of spending their money and time to watch the 2019/20 Arizona Coyotes.

It's a costly night out, even if you get the tickets for free.
I’m not sure about anyone else but I thought I saw a lot of empty seats last night…not a lot of reason to be excited to spend an exorbitant amount of money on this product.
 
First moves should be to sell Boeser, Demko and Suter asap.

Trade Miller in the summer.

Then it becomes the hard choice of maybe looking at trading Pettersson and Hughes if the retool doesn't look promising next season.
Stop it. We're not trading Hughes unless he clearly indicates that he will not resign. I'm almost 53. I have waited an entire lifetime for a player like this. I don't care if we give him a max contract. Build around him. As such, even if things continue to go south, we should only trade Boeser if he won't sign a reasonable contract. He's a valuable player for this team. And Demko? Why move a distressed asset? Suter? Others? Sure.
 
Stop it. We're not trading Hughes unless he clearly indicates that he will not resign. I'm almost 53. I have waited an entire lifetime for a player like this. I don't care if we give him a max contract. Build around him.

Ignore him. Hughes is untouchable lol troll post.
 
I’m not sure about anyone else but I thought I saw a lot of empty seats last night…not a lot of reason to be excited to spend an exorbitant amount of money on this product.
Not as many as I thought I'd see, and I believe the upper bowl is still relatively full.
 
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There's a small contingent on here that swears Myers is decent and was worth bringing back. I'd like to believe they're trolling. Myers has had MOMENTS within a game of decent play but he's been trash for the vast majority of his tenure.

When his contract expired, I couldn't believe this team willingly brought him back. He was an abyss on the blue line for five years, they were finally free and chose to go back into bondage with him. I don't care if his price was the league minimum; ANYBODY would have been a better choice.

The fact they lost Zadorov for him is unforgivable.
Have you actually watched any games this season? Other than moments of Chaos, Myers has been the Canucks third best defencemen. He is playing as a #3 when he should be a 5-6. Soucy has consistently been the weak link in his pairing with Myers this season. The failure to bring back Zadorov was indeed a failure. He should be here instead of Desharnais, Forbort or Heinen.
 
Have you actually watched any games this season? Other than moments of Chaos, Myers has been the Canucks third best defencemen. He is playing as a #3 when he should be a 5-6. Soucy has consistently been the weak link in his pairing with Myers this season. The failure to bring back Zadorov was indeed a failure. He should be here instead of Desharnais, Forbort or Heinen.
That's a MAJOR caveat. lol
 
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He’s been pretty bad since returning. It’s a bit telling that he can’t really carry a pairing. His shot seems to have completely disappeared too. What happened?
He was making the same blunders pre-injury as well.

I find Hronek is most exposed in his own end. Lots of bad turnovers and giveaways when he is pressured, as well as missed assignments.

He is good through the neutral zone and in the ozone (except when pinching).

Thats not what this team needs. They need a high IQ defensive D ala Tanev.
 
I’m not sure about anyone else but I thought I saw a lot of empty seats last night…not a lot of reason to be excited to spend an exorbitant amount of money on this product.
It's basically one guy at this point. Almost every night (nobody is 100% consistent) you're paying to see the best D-man in franchise history. The should be Hart and Norris winner. One of the best defenceman in the history of the game.
But yeah, outside of Quinn, you might out a lot of coin for not much entertainment.
 
Have you actually watched any games this season? Other than moments of Chaos, Myers has been the Canucks third best defencemen. He is playing as a #3 when he should be a 5-6. Soucy has consistently been the weak link in his pairing with Myers this season. The failure to bring back Zadorov was indeed a failure. He should be here instead of Desharnais, Forbort or Heinen.

The chaos is pretty consistent and he makes his partners worse because he makes so many little dumb decisions in terms of positioning on the ice that they don’t know where the hell he’s going to be.
 
At some point, people are going to get tired of spending their money and time to watch the 2019/20 Arizona Coyotes.

It's a costly night out, even if you get the tickets for free.
Yup...I was at the game last night, tickets were free to me, but still spent $100+ on food, beer, 50/50, parking.
And the team played their boring system like crap. Boring, and a loss.
 
Yup...I was at the game last night, tickets were free to me, but still spent $100+ on food, beer, 50/50, parking.
And the team played their boring system like crap. Boring, and a loss.
Next time just take the skytrain, have Costco hotdogs pre-game, and don't buy beer in the arena. Your experience wouldn't be as good but it will cost you like $10-15 :)
 
I’m not sure about anyone else but I thought I saw a lot of empty seats last night…not a lot of reason to be excited to spend an exorbitant amount of money on this product.
It seems that for every game, there's a swath of black, lower bowl seats right behind the Canuck bench that are totally unoccupied. I've seen this over and over this season.

Are these corporate seats that are un-used game after game? You'd think they might ponder donating them to a kids sporting organizations or something--rather than seeing them empty most nights.

I think you could argue that last night's loss was one of the most disappointing of the season--particularly the third period. They were simply outclassed by a team that is at the bottom of the Eastern Conference and was blitzed 6-4 by the Kraken the previous night.

It's the kind of performance that triggers a major trade or gets the coach fired--but of course it's unlikely either happens, at least right now. But it's almost 'unwatchable hockey' even on television. I can only imagine how bad it must be in the rink.
 

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