Missing EP is definitely not the entire problem for the team right now, but being able to throw him out shift after shift defensively would probably have helped prevent a few of these 3rd period collapses.
Post-Game Talk: [GM39] Canucks lose to Canadiens in OT | 4-5 | Miller(2), Lekkerimaki, & DeBrusk | Snatching Defeat From the Jaws of Victory
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Missing EP is definitely not the entire problem for the team right now, but being able to throw him out shift after shift defensively would probably have helped prevent a few of these 3rd period collapses.
EpochLink
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Done with Brock, if he's looking for 8x8 he can find it elsewhere.
He was great his first ~dozen games he played here before the injury which is even more perplexing.
Bonham
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Myers on a bottom pairing is perfectly fine. He still brings some offensive utility and can play minutes when needed.
It's not his fault he's the second best defenseman on the roster at this point.
There's a reason why Hughes played this game in a splint. People were up in arms about bringing him back prematurely, but as if they had a choice. If he says he's good to go, he's playing.
EpochLink
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Pettersson's defense is missed, my god this team's defense is falling apart.
ChilliBilly
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Coach of the year last year. Took a terrible team into a team that went to 7 games against a good oil team.
The real problem this year is:
1 - high expectations on one good season.
2 - a regular shitstorm of injuries.
This was a team playing to their expectations. I thought everyone played well relative to what I would expect of them. Miller looked engaged and made some great play, Hogs had jump, and while lek, was mostly over his head, you can see his talent on his goal.
Make no mistake though, it wasn’t reffing or anything like that causing our loss… it was this atrocious defence.
Yes some blame clearly goes to management, they didn’t do a good enough job bringing in the right talent. However so much blame also goes on the coaches…
branstrom is a number 6 defencemen. He isn’t good… but I would take a defense filled with him over one with forbort and Desharnais, Juulsen. Good god…
Make no mistake though, it wasn’t reffing or anything like that causing our loss… it was this atrocious defence.
Yes some blame clearly goes to management, they didn’t do a good enough job bringing in the right talent. However so much blame also goes on the coaches…
branstrom is a number 6 defencemen. He isn’t good… but I would take a defense filled with him over one with forbort and Desharnais, Juulsen. Good god…
I think he just can’t handle more minutes. He plays like a really good 2nd pairing guy with 3rd pairing ice time. Once you ramp up his minutes he goes to shit. Which is surprising considering how well he played last season.
We need a LD so we can bump Soucey down a pair and we need a RD to bump Myers down and shoot Juulsen into the sun.
ChilliBilly
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Blame Hoglander or the soft call by the refs, but this team struggles to move the puck from the back end, get hemmed in way too often, and are way too sloppy playing defense. The back end is too slow either to pass or skate the puck out, outside of Hughes and Hronek at least.
Still have no one else to blame but Allvin. He gave Tocchet this defense.
Still have no one else to blame but Allvin. He gave Tocchet this defense.
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He was good in the first year, team record with & without showed this. He has been awful this year, giving a player like this a NMC will do this, realistically he's a bottom pair dman.
EpochLink
Canucks and Jets fan
Allvin and Rutherford gave this team this defense, it was poorly constructed.
Outside of Hughes and Hronek, it's bad.
Forbert and Desharnais ain't gonna cut it.
Bonham
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Even the commentators were giving him praise.
Nobody else on this defense is making that rush outside of Hughes.
Keep his minutes reasonable and he can still provide value.
Jack Burton
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I think we need to stop worrying about Pettersson vs Miller and start worrying about how this team and that defence can’t keep a lead. We were lights out last year going into the 3rd but this year we are the complete opposite…just bleeding points at an alarming rate.
Hurry up and make that trade Alvin.
Hurry up and make that trade Alvin.
HabsAddict
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Tough game. Didn't see the bad blood because we hardly play each other.
Don't throw rocks at me but Juulsen and Desharnais are more AHL lifers then NHL.
Miller is crazy good.
Good luck...
Don't throw rocks at me but Juulsen and Desharnais are more AHL lifers then NHL.
Miller is crazy good.
Good luck...
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EpochLink
Canucks and Jets fan
He better hurry up, Aquaman is about to go nuclear soon if he hasn't already.
Also, Rutherford should get the memo too.
kanucks25
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They both had shit rosters too, but that has nothing to do with it.
The team is the middle of the pack while being decimated with injuries. If we were somewhat healthy we'd likely be firmly in a playoff spot like we were before the injuries.
So I fail to understand the disconnect or what the problem is. Once we get healthy we'll be fine.
If once we're healthy we're still shitting the bed you can point to the coach.
So far under Tocchet this team has not underperformed relative to their roster on paper. If anything they have overperformed on the whole.
Trust us, no rocks will be thrown because of what you said.
Our rocks are reserved for our front office.
Honestly Forbort at that cap is fine, Desharnais needs to GTFO.
EpochLink
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HabsAddict
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I LOVE to see you guys there. Consider everybody still thinks we're a bottom 5 team...
TWO Canadian teams? Buttman rather give himself a vasectomy with a rusted chainsaw...
Sergei Shirokov
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Man I've been very optimistic about this teams potential but for the first time I'm starting to think they might not make the playoffs.
.. and that's with Hughes returning (in brilliant fashion) and JT having a vintage performance !!
What happened to the team that locked games down when leading into the 3rd? This is like the 22-23 Boudreau Canucks where no lead is safe, a complete 180.
I do agree they really missed Pettersson tonight..aside from Miller's line the forwards didn't have much, and he is so good defensively too.
Entertaining game but that was a tough one to let slip away. It only gets harder from here..
.. and that's with Hughes returning (in brilliant fashion) and JT having a vintage performance !!
What happened to the team that locked games down when leading into the 3rd? This is like the 22-23 Boudreau Canucks where no lead is safe, a complete 180.
I do agree they really missed Pettersson tonight..aside from Miller's line the forwards didn't have much, and he is so good defensively too.
Entertaining game but that was a tough one to let slip away. It only gets harder from here..
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