Post-Game Talk: [GM35] Canucks lose to Kraken in OT | 4-5 | Boeser(2), Garland, & DeBrusk |. いかにぎり🍣

[geebster]

I think if we add the best dman in the world and a right handed guy that can play with him this group would be OK!

 

[Kryten]

heh, I remember this (not from you but others) argued from another Coach of the Year winner on the Canucks.

I always say this but AV was great at changing his style to get the most out of the players he was given. We havent had a coach with that ability since

 

[Quinning]

I'm normally a pretty calm guy when it comes to hockey. I try not to get too high but I certainly bask in the victories. I try to let losses roll off my back and quickly move on. I can't change what happened nor is there anything I can do in the moment to affect the outcome.

But this loss, this one right here, has filled with me with a kind of unrestrained anger that I have no felt in many years. Just a seething disgust for damn near every defenceman on this team. There's things I'd happily do to each of these players that would get me convicted for war crimes normally reserved for the most foul of soulless humans.

I decided years ago to celebrate the wins and just not care about the losses. It's not worth yelling at your family and breaking shit because a bunch of overpaid bums can't do their jobs.

 

[VibinCanuck]

I came to the conclusion that Tocchet would be fired after the Utah game. He's lost the room and each game that becomes more clear.

At this point management shouldn't give him any help... the 1st will be more useful in the off-season.

 

[ManVanFan]

I always say this but AV was great at changing his style to get the most out of the players he was given. We havent had a coach with that ability since

Tocchet is a joke. He's got all sorts of talent trying to play like 4th liners.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

Needed fixing 5 months ago

Oh, it absolutely did. But I’m still of the mindset that if Allvin can address the D, we’ll be a good team.

Does the way we lost this game piss me off? Oh yes. But I’m keeping it in perspective.

 

[arttk]

This D core is completely irredeemable and so deeply bad that acquiring ONE top-4 D man using valuable pieces/futures is not going to fix things. Just so thoroughly bad from #3 to #7 (when everyone is healthy!).

Just really not feeling like our year with everything breaking against us.

Add 1 at TDL and keep him. Add Willander and then in the offseason upgrade the bottom parings.

 

[TruGr1t]

We really needed an above average GM to really get us out of the hole that was dug for us back in 2021.

Unfortunately Allvin is average and has a tendency to make a bunch of unforced errors.

It’s an organizational thing. They’ve always refused to make tough decisions, like say Tampa and Vegas made this summer, and have instead thrown draft picks, futures and whatever cap space they have at the problem hoping it works.

They had a great offseason last year and were fortunately healthy, but messed up a bunch of stuff this past summer and have in-season health problems.

It’s a fine line they’re walking and will regularly blow up in anyone’s face.

Truly fixing the issues Benning left was always going to take a full rebuild, or moving pieces they have yet to be willing to move.

 

[thekernel]

I'm normally a pretty calm guy when it comes to hockey. I try not to get too high but I certainly bask in the victories. I try to let losses roll off my back and quickly move on. I can't change what happened nor is there anything I can do in the moment to affect the outcome.

But this loss, this one right here, has filled with me with a kind of unrestrained anger that I have no felt in many years. Just a seething disgust for damn near every defenceman on this team. There's things I'd happily do to each of these players that would get me convicted for war crimes normally reserved for the most foul of soulless humans.

I'm actually so mad. I've never wanted to Tonya Harding a player before today. That's the kind of rage I feel.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

I’m not panicking anymore today than I was yesterday. The defense needed fixing yesterday, it still needs fixing today. For the long term future of this team.

This result is disappointing AF. But some of the comments about selling everything and whatnot are a little overboard.

If every defenseman besides Hughes and Hronek left, I don't think anyone would have an issue.

 

[VibinCanuck]

Just quit while you're behind and take the L dude

Miller has been on the ice watching his man score 3 OT games in a row.

 

[Isi]

We really needed an above average GM to really get us out of the hole that was dug for us back in 2021.

Unfortunately Allvin is average and has a tendency to make a bunch of unforced errors.

I think thus far he's probably been above average, but trying to win the cup straight up after the Benning era basically means you have to get almost every single GM decision right and even small mistakes can snow-ball and it's just a brutal task. Their D decisions over the off-season are probably a good example of that.

 

[TruKnyte]

I decided years ago to celebrate the wins and just not care about the losses. It's not worth yelling at your family and breaking shit because a bunch of overpaid bums can't do their jobs.

That went from 0-100 pretty quick lol. I prefer yelling at anonymous strangers on the internet.

 

[Canuckle1970]

Lesson learned, I hope - when you have a chance to score on the empty net, just do it. It would have saved a lot of grief today.

 

[VanillaCoke]

I came to the conclusion that Tocchet would be fired after the Utah game. He's lost the room and each game that becomes more clear.

At this point management shouldn't give him any help... the 1st will be more useful in the off-season.

Doubling down on clown takes hmm, interesting strategy but good luck...!

 

[geebster]

But this loss, this one right here, has filled with me with a kind of unrestrained anger that I have no felt in many years. Just a seething disgust for damn near every defenceman on this team. There's things I'd happily do to each of these players that would get me convicted for war crimes normally reserved for the most foul of soulless humans.

I too would make out with Myers against his will. Probably need to bring a ladder....

 

[Jerry the great]

I'm normally a pretty calm guy when it comes to hockey. I try not to get too high but I certainly bask in the victories. I try to let losses roll off my back and quickly move on. I can't change what happened nor is there anything I can do in the moment to affect the outcome.

But this loss, this one right here, has filled with me with a kind of unrestrained anger that I have no felt in many years. Just a seething disgust for damn near every defenceman on this team. There's things I'd happily do to each of these players that would get me convicted for war crimes normally reserved for the most foul of soulless humans.

serenity now

 

[logan5]

Why are there a few people getting on Miller on the OT goal? He skated back hard. Myers was nowhere to be seen.

 

[Leif Rohlin]

Question;

As a Canucks coach - your team is winning 4-1 with 5 mins left in the game. The other team scores a couple goals.

Wouldn’t you use your time out to get everybody focused and calm the building? We’ve lost momentum?

What would be the benefit of saving it?

Tocchet was asked about timeouts last year and basically said he hasn't figured out a good way to use them.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

I decided years ago to celebrate the wins and just not care about the losses. It's not worth yelling at your family and breaking shit because a bunch of overpaid bums can't do their jobs.

What if your family is Juulsen or Myers?

 

[LemonSauceD]

Tocchet should’ve used his timeout but I honestly am not going to blame him at all considering what we have on the back end.

Any other coach would’ve looked real bad when you see what the f*** is being iced on the back end.

Fingers should be pointed at Allvin. Especially if he doesn’t make a move to address this by the next game.

 

[TruKnyte]

Tocchet was asked about timeouts last year and basically said he hasn't figured out a good way to use them.

There a quote for that? Blows my mind if true.

 

[timw33]

Add 1 at TDL and keep him. Add Willander and then in the offseason upgrade the bottom parings.

I would also maybe not take too much direction from Tocchet on which D to acquire after everyone bought into his "big tree" bullshit and that got us Forbort/Desharnais/Myers (again).

 

[brock hughes007]

Coaching isn’t the main problem, even if I don’t like the way he deals with certain players. Firing the Jack Adams winner isn’t the answer.

Roster management is an issue. We’re far too thin on the blueline and we’ve filled the gaps with slow Dmen with low hockey IQ and poor puck-moving skills. It doesn’t work in today’s NHL.

He could have used a time out after Seattle's 3rd goal.I don't think he knows how to use them.This team is pissing away points and it is going to cost us in the end.I said it before Tocchet is coaching like he did in Phoenix that cost him his job.He over achieved last season with a good team.

 

[Hit the post]

I always say this but AV was great at changing his style to get the most out of the players he was given. We havent had a coach with that ability since

His only problem was that he never seemed to adapt when the opposition had a gameplan against the Canucks. One of the best at planning but not so much after the opening whistle.

IMHO.