I remember you were so positive in the post season last year - even when things went bad.
What happened? lol
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What happened? lol
bandwagonesque
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I'm fine with it too. He isn't much of a puck carrier but he's fast and seems to play well off of skilled players. If you can hold the puck and make the first play he'll make the right second play.
Given the circumstances, Demko did pretty OK - not great, but I definitely wouldn't be too harsh on him. The team in front simply aren't doing their goddamn job to protect and support him to the best of their ability.
And risk sounding like a broken record, I gotta say to Tocchet PLEASE, do something about our powerplay. Last year it looked bad, this year it's even more embarrassing. Fans don't want to have to pour bleach in their eyes every time the team gets a powerplay only resulting in 3-4 scoring chances for the opposition.
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Not sure I like Sasson up on Pettersson's wing but you know what, kid's played like a beast lately. Why not give it a shot?
At this point though, Hoglander really is just fading away. I don't know if he'll have much in the way of value by the TDL.
At this point though, Hoglander really is just fading away. I don't know if he'll have much in the way of value by the TDL.
Weird, he must have a nagging injury or something because, let's face it, he's our MVP so far and I was wondering about sitting your hot goalie immediately after he shuts out the Cup champs. For whatever reason it seems this team only plays well in front of him which is also weird.
I agree we shouldn't be too harsh on him like we have been with, say, Silovs. Both guys have had great moments but were brutally let down by the team in front of them. I said this well before Demko came back; it doesn't matter who is in net for us if the team is going to play this badly in front of them.Given the circumstances, Demko did pretty OK - not great, but I definitely wouldn't be too harsh on him. The team in front simply aren't doing their goddamn job to protect and support him to the best of their ability.
Today’s Practice
- Got the point across
- Play every other day so have to make sure guys have their energy
- Looking for a spark
- Only won 40% of their battles in the last game
- Need to switch things around when you’re not winning battles
- Never scared of the schedule
- Has some great players but going through some struggles too
- You get frustrated but need to keep working on the right things
- A couple of guys are straight-legged and then they ice the puck
- Not sure if it’s a focus problem or something else
- He has the puck a lot; it’s a big part of his defence
- The 4 or 5 guys that Tocchet said weren’t engaged know you they are
- There could be a couple of other guys as well
- Have no problem talking to players
- Don’t have the depth to have 3,4, or 5 passengers
- Edmonton can have guys sleeping but also have players that can win the game for them; Canucks don’t have that
- Need your leadership group to make guys accountable
- Will make players accountable with ice time
- Don’t want to be a coach that keeps yelling and screaming
- This is a partnership
- For this season, it’s taking longer for the players to recognize that they need to get themselves going
- Different approaches
- Showing video, 1-on-1 talks, being stern sometimes, reducing ice time, etc.
- Hopefully have a collection of players that understand what they are trying to do
- Just made too many mistakes yesterday and isn’t sure if that’s not being ready to play
- Lots of difficulties this season so need to give guys a longer leash
- Need a collective group to overcome and stick to the team identity
- Can’t go rogue
- If you string a bunch of terrible games together, then it’s a red flag
- Show the players video and they respond in a good way, however
- Sick again
- Flu bug has gone through 3,4, or 5 guys
- Doesn’t know if he’s available; not sure if he’s eaten today
- Making the most of an opportunity
- He’s moving his feet
- Has to play his game in the top-6
- When a player moves up in the line-up they sometimes find they have to do something different but he needs to stay within his identity
- Looking for him to move his feet, play good defensive hockey, and be good on the forecheck
Baby Pettersson
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I will proudly say I've been one of the more positive posters here the last few years even when times were dark.
What I think is really bugging me is I know, you know, we all know this team has more potential in them. I truly believe this team has the ability to contend and has another gear in them. I think it's just frustrating watching this team knowing they have the ability to win but can't find their footing.
Let's call it tough love if you will. I'm still the same positive guy I've always been but I have expectations. Expectations I know this team can meet. I love them as passionately as I ever have. I think most of the fanbase does. But we also gotta realize something is wrong at the moment and I'm not going to pretend it's not.
But I believe they will come through this better then ever before. Adversity builds contenders. And boy are they ever getting a dose of adversity this season.
So let's continue to cheer em on like the proud fans we are and give them all the tough love they need. Because in the end I promise it'll all be worth it!
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He's basically saying the same thing every game at this point. Does he have answers?
Sasson replacing Boeser in the top is a pretty good sign of who Tocchet thinks one of the passengers is. I guess we'll find out who the others are tomorrow when we see the ice time.
Expecting your players to out-battle the other team every night is not a formula for long term success.
It's high time for him to figure that out.
The bigger question is why these players have checked out.
Last time he tried to get the leadership to try to fix things it lead to the team's top two forwards getting into an altercation. Bieksa made it clear on HNIC that motivating players was never tasked to a teammate when he played. Unless they want to cause more problems in the room, this is management and the coaching staff's job to figure out. Unfortunately, there is not a lot of experience behind the Canuck's bench, Tocchet is on an island here and it's showing.
Not sure these things are working.
What is the team identity? First game of the season they coughed up a 3 goal lead and it's hard to argue that hasn't been their identity since.
Sasson replacing Boeser in the top is a pretty good sign of who Tocchet thinks one of the passengers is. I guess we'll find out who the others are tomorrow when we see the ice time.
