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Peen

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Maybe I misunderstood - thought you were saying like Zadorov they missed Cole on his last contract, not the current one.

I think he was probably the team’s third best defender if you look at his whole season’s worth of work, but not by a huge margin and recognizing he fell off at the end of the year.

Agree he wouldn’t make a huge difference but there’d be a clearer path forward than with Myers locked up for three years.
I kind of am playing both sides but Cole showed he wasn't a $3MM guy last year. He was good the first 20 and then tailed off as the season went, and then looked really bad playing injured in the playoffs. There's a load management argument to be made separate to this. And we had the space to afford him at the time and he provided what we needed.

But we're on the same boat there given what you've said.

Me saying I'd rather have Cole than Myers contracts going forward but that Cole at his ticket last year actually made sense given the teams salary make up versus this year aren't intended to be dichotomous sentiments

I feel like both those things can be true
 

arttk

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can we revert back to last season’s system please

I kind of am playing both sides but Cole showed he wasn't a $3MM guy last year. He was good the first 20 and then tailed off as the season went, and then looked really bad playing injured in the playoffs. There's a load management argument to be made separate to this. And we had the space to afford him at the time and he provided what we needed.

But we're on the same boat there given what you've said.

Me saying I'd rather have Cole than Myers contracts going forward but that Cole at his ticket last year actually made sense given the teams salary make up versus this year aren't intended to be dichotomous sentiments

I feel like both those things can be true
Well we are stuck with Myers now
 

WTG

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Then don't complain about the defense because we can't do a damn thing about it without trading picks. Nobody's taking Hoglander for a top 3
Yup, that pick is getting traded for sure. As it should. You should be trading picks to get you closer to winning the cup when your window is open.

They aren't tanking and rebuilding anymore.
 
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SillyRabbit

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Problem is, he's back and now it's Miller that looks broken. We can't win unless they're both going.
I posted this above but I think Miller needs to sit. He's not helping the team at this point. I'd just rest him until he's healthy again.

I think with Boeser out, he probably feels like the team needs him, but he's been invisible tonight.
 

Jay26

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Then don't complain about the defense because we can't do a damn thing about it without trading picks. Nobody's taking Hoglander for a top 3
I haven't really complained about the defense. I don't think it's good enough but I've never felt that it's our only issue.

Basically our D isn't good enough but I don't expect or even want them to trade valuable draft assets to improve it. Just roll with the punches this season.
 

credulous

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Yup, that pick is getting traded for sure. As it should. You should be trading picks to get you closer to winning the cup when your window is open.

They aren't tanking and rebuilding anymore.

this is a weak draft year and even at their worst this team isn't getting into the top 10. there's zero reason to be precious about draft picks
 
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Lawzy

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I'm going to the game on Tuesday and I am presently hyper aware of what the refs do when we play the Rangers.
 

Regal

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Yup, that pick is getting traded for sure. As it should. You should be trading picks to get you closer to winning the cup when your window is open.

They aren't tanking and rebuilding anymore.

Depends on the move. If it’s a long term #3 who can carry the second pairing, sure. But they shouldn’t be trading it for a rental unless the team starts playing better.
 

BenningHurtsMySoul

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Time to bring back this baby from the Edmonton run:

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bbud

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I haven't really complained about the defense. I don't think it's good enough but I've never felt that it's our only issue.

Basically our D isn't good enough but I don't expect or even want them to trade valuable draft assets to improve it. Just roll with the punches this season.
Half d success last year was forwards being where they need and winning puck battles on boards something that's not happening enough this yr
 
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