GM Game 8 Discussion Thread

[hockeynorth]

I wouldn't mind doing a U25 draft or something like that if there was interest.

Would be a mix up from the regular draft and wouldn't require 31 teams to do. Would only need 10-16 people. Just an idea.

Good idea, let’s do a 25 and under draft. I’ll get a thread up.

 

[hockeynorth]

HN's U26 Fantasy Draft

 

[TribalPhoenix]

If a Game 9 gets put together, I'll be up for it.

 

[Gecklund]

If a Game 9 gets put together, I'll be up for it.

I’m also in for a Game 9 but I don’t want to run it again.

 

[TribalPhoenix]

I’m also in for a Game 9 but I don’t want to run it again.

I can help run, but I think we need to reevaluate the whole veto idea. It's kinda become less of a GM Game, and more of a "Lets Just Make Wild Trades and f*** Off After The Deadline" Game.

 

[Gecklund]

I can help run, but I think we need to reevaluate the whole veto idea. It's kinda become less of a GM Game, and more of a "Lets Just Make Wild Trades and f*** Off After The Deadline" Game.

Yeah last game was pretty bad. A lot of people offered to help before the game started but very few actually helped. When things started coming up and I wasn’t able to be on to monitor it as much, it went to shit. By the time I was on pieces in that trade had already been moved and it wasn’t worth it to go back and veto it. I’ll help and be on a veto committee and/or an agent but I don’t want to be the main one running it again.

 

[TribalPhoenix]

Yeah last game was pretty bad. A lot of people offered to help before the game started but very few actually helped. When things started coming up and I wasn’t able to be on to monitor it as much, it went to shit. By the time I was on pieces in that trade had already been moved and it wasn’t worth it to go back and veto it. I’ll help and be on a veto committee and/or an agent but I don’t want to be the main one running it again.

I'll co-commish. I did it for damn near a decade, I'll get the rust off... lol

 

[Gecklund]

I'll co-commish. I did it for damn near a decade, I'll get the rust off... lol

Should we go back to the way the old games ran with three commissioners and all NTCs had to sent in and approved?

 

[Blinny]

Should we go back to the way the old games ran with three commissioners and all NTCs had to sent in and approved?

That would definitely make it more legit

 

[TribalPhoenix]

That would definitely make it more legit

Fully agree. No more trading Matthews and Crosby. FFS.

 

[BeLeafing]

Fully agree. No more trading Matthews and Crosby. FFS.

Matthews doesn't have a NTC

 

[TribalPhoenix]

Matthews doesn't have a NTC

Yeah, but it's realism. That was what the GM Games were built on when I started playing them in 2008. There were some guys that everyone knew weren't getting moved. It make for a better game.. guys who actually wanted to be a GM, not just make bombastic trades.

 

[BeLeafing]

Yeah, but it's realism. That was what the GM Games were built on when I started playing them in 2008. There were some guys that everyone knew weren't getting moved. It make for a better game.. guys who actually wanted to be a GM, not just make bombastic trades.

I do agree that realism for a game would be nice, yet at the same time after playing 4 or 5 of these or whatever it is enjoyable to switch it up and make those major trades. I enjoyed myself last game just as much as the more realistic ones.

 

[TribalPhoenix]

I do agree that realism for a game would be nice, yet at the same time after playing 4 or 5 of these or whatever it is enjoyable to switch it up and make those major trades. I enjoyed myself last game just as much as the more realistic ones.

That's fair, but it also skews what the game is about.

If you want to make big time trades, pick a team where that applies! I loved playing teams I wasn't a fan of, and thought needed unpopular changes, but weren't in the stratosphere of crazy.

 

[Blinny]

Yeah, but it's realism. That was what the GM Games were built on when I started playing them in 2008. There were some guys that everyone knew weren't getting moved. It make for a better game.. guys who actually wanted to be a GM, not just make bombastic trades.

This is what I went for last game. Honestly, I had so much more fun this last game.

 

[TribalPhoenix]

This is what I went for last game. Honestly, I had so much more fun this last game.

But it's not a GM Game then; everyone divests themselves of draft picks, makes crazytown trades, and then disappear... maybe 3 guys show up for the draft, with maybe 6 taking interest, and then FA withers and dies with a handful of active GMs.

It's a competition of who can make the most insane trades, not one where they're trying to build the best team.

If it were that easy, why don't those trades happen IRL every year?

 

[Blinny]

But it's not a GM Game then; everyone divests themselves of draft picks, makes crazytown trades, and then disappear... maybe 3 guys show up for the draft, with maybe 6 taking interest, and then FA withers and dies with a handful of active GMs.

It's a competition of who can make the most insane trades, not one where they're trying to build the best team.

If it were that easy, why don't those trades happen IRL every year?

I was agreeing with you. I took the Bruins through a re-tool and it was ao much fun

 

[Gecklund]

But it's not a GM Game then; everyone divests themselves of draft picks, makes crazytown trades, and then disappear... maybe 3 guys show up for the draft, with maybe 6 taking interest, and then FA withers and dies with a handful of active GMs.

It's a competition of who can make the most insane trades, not one where they're trying to build the best team.

If it were that easy, why don't those trades happen IRL every year?

Yeah I try to keep it realistic as much as possible. I mean last game for the Sharks I added Hagelin, Gourde, Cernak, Rutta, and Murray and obviously that was a little unrealistic but I think every trade I made with them could be a hole they fill. For Buffalo I added Ekblad which unrealistic but not entirely, Faksa, Kassian, and Cole. I do my best to keep it at least semi realistic.

 

[BeLeafing]

That's fair, but it also skews what the game is about.

If you want to make big time trades, pick a team where that applies! I loved playing teams I wasn't a fan of, and thought needed unpopular changes, but weren't in the stratosphere of crazy.

Understandable, and I get wanting to get it back on track since it slowly divulged into bigger and bigger trades (partly from my pure boredom at the end), but I also don't think crazy is a bad thing now and then and not every game has to be the same.

 

[TribalPhoenix]

I was agreeing with you. I took the Bruins through a re-tool and it was ao much fun

My mistake! Apologies... I'm watching the game, and have been drinking... lol

 

[TribalPhoenix]

Understandable, and I get wanting to get it back on track since it slowly divulged into bigger and bigger trades (partly from my pure boredom at the end), but I also don't think crazy is a bad thing now and then and not every game has to be the same.

If it makes sense as a pure hockey trade, no doubt... but for me, it's in the vein of two teams struggling who are willing to make big moves (i.e. Jones for Johanssen)

 

[Gecklund]

Understandable, and I get wanting to get it back on track since it slowly divulged into bigger and bigger trades (partly from my pure boredom at the end), but I also don't think crazy is a bad thing now and then and not every game has to be the same.

I would agree to an extent. I’m okay with a little unrealistic if there is a good reason (Ekblad to BUF, BUF looks like an up and coming team, FLA looks to be on the trend down). The trades I don’t like are the ones like the Drai for Matthews trade.

 

[BeLeafing]

I would agree to an extent. I’m okay with a little unrealistic if there is a good reason (Ekblad to BUF, BUF looks like an up and coming team, FLA looks to be on the trend down). The trades I don’t like are the ones like the Drai for Matthews trade.

Yeah, but in the end we're here for fun and to pass time. And honestly while insanely unrealistic, that Matthews/Drai trade in particular has way less of an impact on the game than the superstar for 9 futures trades. It didn't really affect either team. Realism is nice, but I personally prioritize enjoyment over realism in these games. Guess it's just different perspectives.

 

[TribalPhoenix]

Yeah, but in the end we're here for fun and to pass time. And honestly while insanely unrealistic, that Matthews/Drai trade in particular has way less of an impact on the game than the superstar for 9 futures trades. It didn't really affect either team. Realism is nice, but I personally prioritize enjoyment over realism in these games. Guess it's just different perspectives.

I would debate that.

If it's entertainment, hey, I get it. But I kinda hope HFBoards is for people who think they know more than the folks playing chel 20.

As an actual GM, I'd say "Well, I know what Matthews does in Toronto... why would I trade him for a guy who may not have the same chemistry?"

Same true for EDM.

Again, that's just me. Enjoyment is good, but if you're gonna play a GM game, be a GM, not a trade monger.

 

[Gecklund]

Yeah, but in the end we're here for fun and to pass time. And honestly while insanely unrealistic, that Matthews/Drai trade in particular has way less of an impact on the game than the superstar for 9 futures trades. It didn't really affect either team. Realism is nice, but I personally prioritize enjoyment over realism in these games. Guess it's just different perspectives.

Here’s the thing though. When you have teams that give up their entire future and you know they’ll be awful as soon as next season but are absolutely stacked the first season, it takes the fun out of it for everyone else.