Off topic. Don't give that man snow plow too.
Post-Game Talk: GM 69 | Canucks def. Jets | 6-2 (Boeser x2, Suter x2, Hoglander, O’Connor) | Just as we all predicted!
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Off topic. Don't give that man snow plow too.
Lemmiwinks
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Suter might finish with 25 goals this season under Tocchet’s extremely low scoring system, while being one of our key penalty killers that has us as one of the best PK teams in the league. With the rising cap his number starts with a 4 and some of you are going to be mad when we sign him to a fair deal.
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His career point pace is 35 vs 25 for Virtanen (essentially 18G 17A pace)
He plays Center and wing.
He is a good PKer.
Virtanen is a weird comparative. Suter is by far the superior player. With the cap going up significantly the next few years he is indeed closing in on $4.5-$5 mil a year territory.
I am toxic
. . . even in small doses
Jake Evans is a pretty dead-on comparable who just signed for $2.8 million. There is no way in hell Suter is getting anywhere near $5 million.
Yes that was an impressive win, but being honest a 3-2 homestead simply wasn't good enough. Not when you look at our remaining schedule compared to those we are competing against. I'm usually a glass half full type of guy, but this hill is too steep.
To paraphrase Randy Moss, when it comes to the standings rigjt now, if they're even, they're leaving.
With that said, glad to see the team hasn't rolled over and quit. They're not going to make the postseason, but they are working rookies into the lineup, and "meaningful games in March" will benefit the Lekkerimaki, Junior, and eventually Willanders of the organization.
To paraphrase Randy Moss, when it comes to the standings rigjt now, if they're even, they're leaving.
With that said, glad to see the team hasn't rolled over and quit. They're not going to make the postseason, but they are working rookies into the lineup, and "meaningful games in March" will benefit the Lekkerimaki, Junior, and eventually Willanders of the organization.
I don't agree.
You have one guy on a 18 Goal career pace vs 9. Suter also does have the 20 goal season which Tocchet rightfully points out means more $$$. Points are in Suter's favor as well by +5. But that 18 vs 9 goals is a big difference in terms of yearly salary.
Watching the highlights and wondering why Lowery was allowed to hang onto Junior's stick, to the point he skated away from him with it in his hand. New rules allow that now?
Nuck Bonino
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well they doubled my prediction but I got the Boeser 2 goals correct
They're both 35-ish point players of the same age. Suter will score a few more goals. Evans is bigger/faster/more physical and better on faceoffs, and much more of a 'known quantity' as a C. Both are great on the PK. They're about as close of a match as it gets.
People thought Marcus Pettersson was going to get $7.5 million, too. I'd suspect Suter gets somewhere around $3 or $3.2 if he's re-signed here.
Still lots of room to look glass half full.
we are tied with STL, with a game in hand, plus the head to head. As long as we win that we have a good chance.
Ask me again Friday if i am still glass half full... it could change.
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The point I was making is that offensively, Suter hasn’t put up a year that is better than Virtanen’s best…and Virtanen sucks.
This despite being the same age.
Plus also came to us when nobody would give him a contract the last time he was an early UFA.
Giving him a massive contract would be criminal.
Japanese proverb states:
"Kanakusu fan gokoro to aki no sora"
The Heart of a Canucks fan changes like the Autumn Sky
we be like that
Reverend Mayhem
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Is that what all that means?
Because it's true. I for one am excited to be watching hockey down-the-stretch like an anxious little puppy. Makes me feel like a kid again.
My heart ...dunno if it would say the same LOL
strattonius
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It's just a horrible comparison.
Virtanen was a fat, one dimensional winger with zero hockey iq. He could definitely skate in a straight line though.
Suter is smart positionally, can kill penalties and can play Center or Wing. He has high hockey iq. He isn't a flashy player but he's effective everywhere on the ice.
You couldn't have found a worse comparison unless you started listing goalies.
I am actually half Japanese… third generation but still
Reverend Mayhem
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I'm so sorry they probably interned your predecessors and stole your businesses. I've never met a bad Japanese-Canadian to this f***ing day. It was eerie (downright harrowing) driving thru Greenwood and realizing why there were so many sushi joints there. f***ing embarrassing, if you ask me. But war is an awful, awful thing.
I know Paul Kariya's grandparents got sent there and he embodies the spirit of a Canadian better than I ever have.
If he decides to stay in Vancouver he might go for cheaper on a so-called hometown discount. If he decides to test the open market I would not be shocked at all to see $4.5 mil a year deal at all. He is currently 11th in goals for pending UFAs and 18th in points for all players. The UFA class is weak this summer with a significant cap increase on the horizon. And Evans certainly isn't the only comparable. Bennet signed 4x4.4 deal 4 years ago with 5 straight seasons of sub 30 points.
Yeah my grandparents were in one. We have a photo somewhere of them together there.
They also stole their farm, and after gave them one in the okanagan.
I have other family who actually owned basically all of Beach ave in Vancouver that had that taken away too and I just wonder now what would that be worth...
It weird though as a people we don't really complain or talk about it like we are owed anything. I think it is such a Japanese thing. Like my mom doesn't speak any Japanese, cause despite that fact we are very proud of the heritage and it is honestly super cool heritage, when we came over... we were Canadian. You just don't see that much anymore, and thats fine.
He isn’t going to fit the mold a team wants for either a 2C or a 3C, and teams are not going to pay that much for a 35-point utility player.
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Suter should be getting approximately the cap %, term and movement protection that Joshua got, if he re-signs here. Add a little if he goes to market, I think it's pretty much guaranteed that either Hoglander will be traded or Suter will walk, quite possibly both will be gone after O'Connor got that $2.5M x 2.
