Post-Game Talk: GM 09 | Devils def. Canucks | 6-0 | Look at this light.

Canucker

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This team needs a powerplay coach bad, that was horrendous yesterday lol. A team like the Oilers will score 40% of the time, if they don’t it’s so good it gives them momentum. Ours kills our momentum it’s so bad, can’t win a Championship without a dangerous powerplay.
Everyone wants to defer and pass it around the horn and look for the pretty "tic tac toe" play but they simply need to get more pucks directed at the net and muck away in front...battle for position and force defenders to screen their own goalie. They've lost the plot if they think they're going to finesse every PP for goals.
 

BenningHurtsMySoul

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Older brother always wins.
Luke will switch to 34.

And I am getting more and more convinced every day that this will eventually happen, which will prove Devils fans correct and was likely sealed the day they drafted Luke.

Trying to enjoy Quinn for as long as we have him, but if this team takes a dive in the next few years I don't see him sticking around for the rest of his career. The Devils would be cup contenders by adding him to this lineup.
 
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Bertuzzzi44

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Canucks seem to have gotten better in the neutral zone but significantly worse in the offensive zone and defensive zone. Skating so fast leaving pucks behind, lots of north-south skating without generating much, failing to slow it down in the offensive zone and make smart east-west plays, lots of gliding instead of controlled possession, not able to maneuver through traffic, not taking it to the front of the net, unable to get to the slot, not mucking it up and playing chippy, leaving lots of space defensively, too much gliding not enough accelerating & braking, no creativity.
 
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VanillaCoke

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Hopefully now everyone else realizes silovs isn't nhl ready yet, guy should be in Abbotsford asap.

Whatever it takes to motivate an ep trade at this point is my preference, and I'm more convinced than ever hoglander is going with him.
 
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Hopefully now everyone else realizes silovs isn't nhl ready yet, guy should be in Abbotsford asap.
Watching the Hischier goal.

You know where he is going to shoot before even he decides
The camera is behind him and he is still stuck handling, but yet you see the massive open area he is going to shoot
 
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Zippgunn

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lol, after 10 games, people were saying trade Demko.

This has "Spencer Martin" written all over it.
Well not quite, to reach Spencer Martin levels of bad he would have to lose at least the next SEVEN games in a row. If I'm Silovs I welcome a change in scenery if the alternative means that I get utterly hung out to dry in every game I play with the big team. Only, what, 3 players weren't minus players last night. Myers, Juulsen even the stars were completely terrible. He has had no support in any of the games he has started. To be sure he has also not made one big save yet this season. Thank the hockey gods for Lanky; it's a different team when he's in the net it seems. Why? Could it be Silovs' fancy shirts (one hater was railing on about them earlier)? My guess is the jerseys; that pukey yellow colour makes me ill, reminds me of bad hockey...
 

sandwichbird2023

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I think it's a combination of several things.

They both overachieved to some extent last year. Soucy has never been a consistent top four defenseman until last year and we all know Chaos Giraffe. I think the bigger issue though is they're simply being asked to do far too much because Forbort, Desnarhais and Juulsen and varying levels of useless.

Had we signed say, Tanev to exactly the same contract he got from the Leafs, I all but guarantee Soucy would look perfectly fine as a pseudo #3.

Allvin/Rutherford gambled hard on two project players, especially with Desharnais, and it's looking more and more like they came up snake eyes. At least Forbort is a one year and reasonably buri-able contract. I have no clue what they saw in Desharnais
Problem is management/coaching seems hellbent on stocking the bottom 2 pairings with trees, so they prioritize getting the biggest/heaviest defensemen over the summer. Unfortunately, the big/strong D that is also good at hockey cost a fortune and the Nucks had a very limited number of assets (including cap space), so they had to settle for the big/strong but not good ones.

I guess they saw VD and think they can mold him into a better player, and Forbort is a cheap #6 guy on a 1 year contract so whatever. I'm most shocked that they were conned by Myers to a 3 years deal though. I guess Allvin/JR weren't here for most of Myers' contract with us, but there has got to be somebody remaining in the org that can tell them that Myers is very bad at hockey. He had 1 good season as a pending UFA (which lots of players do), after 5 pretty bad seasons, and decided to commit THREE more years to him? I didn't like that signing at the time and its looking worse and worse every day.
 

Hansen

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Not sure if I was just too stoned watching a recording of the game late last night at midnight but it felt like there was a new system in place for defending where the 3rd forward back covering with the D was changing and very often it ended up not being the C and the players did not seem sure about where they should be (DeBrusk in particular got totally lost on a few plays).

I also noticed a change in transition where they brought back one of Travis Greens favourite plays to have the puck shot through the neutral zone for a tip by a stationary player at the blue line-- except it was the other dman who was told to blow the zone and deflect it in. This caused more than one odd man rush the other way and had the defender scrambling. I hate these plays where one dman carries the puck to shoot for a deflected dump in because it forces all of the players on the rush to skate to the blueline and then stop and wait, it kills momentum and makes it so much harder to retrieve. I know zone entries have been a problem but they've gotta do better than this.

I also just feel like Petey needs a changeup some how. f***ing anything. Go get in a fight and have a tooth knocked out or get the shit beaten out of him. Slash a guy across the back of the knee. Primal scream into the stands. f***ing anything to get the blood flowing.
 

rypper

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Luke will switch to 34.

And I am getting more and more convinced every day that this will eventually happen, which will prove Devils fans correct and was likely sealed the day they drafted Luke.

Trying to enjoy Quinn for as long as we have him, but if this team takes a dive in the next few years I don't see him sticking around for the rest of his career. The Devils would be cup contenders by adding him to this lineup.
Careful you're going to send up the guardian bat signal...


I'm confident he'll re-sign here.
 

theguardianII

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Halloween night came early last night.
Tricks and no treats.
The Devil came to Rogers
EP wearing a Henien costume, a bad one.

NJD eased up but the two teams looked like two different tiers of hockey.

Management destroyed the team identity forged last year and Tocchet's glamour is diminishing.
 

mossey3535

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Really hard to evaluate Silovs this game. Honestly not a lot he could have done except for the 5th goal. He kept his skates a lot better this game which was nice. Still, just a bunch of stuff that I don't like.

Goal #1: Hischier with a nice shot here, Silovs picks a position not right on the puck but between the puck and the shooter's body. This is a typical intermediate position where you give up being right on top of it but you have some leeway if you know he is the type to pull it into his feet before he shoots. You also don't have as far to go if he cuts to the net front. On the other hand it's a LHS on the LH with your d-man in the middle, you could choose to microadjust to the puck position and have a better chance and there's like 70% chance he will go blocker side. You can nitpick this decision but at the end of the day Silovs reacted from his feet and Hischier still put it top corner.

Goal #2: I mean, what a f*** up by Miller and Hughes. And Hughes could have skated to the open guy... Anyways, this is a perfectly acceptable rebound by modern standards, the pad did it's job and put a lot of juice on it but it went to the wrong guy. Shit happens sometimes, ironically a rebound right back towards the shooter would have worked out better for him but if you get a rebound that's hot and angled you're usually pretty happy with that.

Goal #3: Another f***up by the defence, Myers does the classic job of taking away his own goalie's eyes. Still IMO this is another example of Silovs not having all that much game experience. The shot through the legs in this circumstances happens every game and eventually you learn to read the puck coming through your own guy's legs. Silov's tracking isn't elite yet so he needs to use these tricks. However, at the end of the day the shooter picks the corner and Silovs is at the top of the blue. Not too much to do there.

Goal #4: I mean Myers basically scores this, not much to say. Bouncy bouncy.

Goal #5: I think this is the only one where I have some real issues. Silovs plays this well going in and out of the RVH. Noesen is never in a shooting positing and at a bad angle which justifies Silov's use of RVH. HOWEVER, because of that you know this is a pass and the chance that it is a cross crease to the net front guy is super high and that's exactly what happens. This isn't a revolving net front presence which is the de jour thing to do among younger guys. Hughes is basically sitting there the entire sequence.

Now one thing you don't see Silovs do is take a quick peek every so often so he knows where everyone is. So his situational awareness is low. But Noesen waiting and waiting on the goal line in a passing position is a huge neon sign telling you they're setting up a back door.

Because he's in RVH, Silovs is in a great position to make this save. Hughes and Noesen even helps him by playing the pass and tip more to the top of the crease instead of the side where Hughes is probably unstoppable. However, here is where technique comes in. It should be an easy compact butterfly to the point of the tip, THEN you extend your hip if you need to make a desperation stretch for a shot that is more to the side of the crease. What Silovs has a habit of doing is abandoning compactness right away, extending his hip to make the "desperation move" when it isn't that desperate moment quite yet. And in this case it opens his five hole and the puck goes straight through. Don't even get me started on stick discipline, anything including paddle down would have prevented this goal even with the unnecessary hip stretch. It's just these technical lack of details which he's shown throughout this regular season.

Goal #6: I mean it's laughable that Juulsen tells his partner to cover the pass AND two guys while he covers open ice with no passing or shooting lane. Goes off Brannstrom's skate to one of the two guys he was trying to cover. So again not much for SIlovs to do again. Actually he plays it perfectly, you expect a deflection from the first net guy so he butterflies at the likely point of contact but then it rolls to the second net guy. Now he does the hip stretch and almost gets it. That's how that is supposed to work. So he is improving in some ways.

Anyways it only makes sense to go back to Lanky but I wouldn't draw too many conclusions about Silovs from this game. Team has to get it's shit together, and some of our best had terrible games tonight.
 

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