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And I mean really, the Leafs have the second highest penalty minute total in the NHL. Maybe they should drop a few goons and stop running people from behind.
Or the story could have been Daniel stood up for himself and didn't back down.
Have you ever played hockey before? Do you not realize that during a hit, your arm comes up? Pause the frame to when Lupul is beside Sedin. Is there any chance of head contact? No. The arm isn't above Sedins' shoulder.
Also, just to conveniently locate them all in this thread, I'll steal this one from the PGT.
A shift of Sedinery or a Daniel dropping the mitts the next time a Marchand tries to use him as a human punching bag will be a Hell of a lot more "inspiring" ... well, as long as he doesn't get KTFO, but just hanging on for dear life and falling down after throwing a couple of punches would be sufficient to prove a point like what Kessel did with Burrows.
There's literally no way that's how the story would have gone. Why are you still concerned with this incident?
That's because of Lupul's ridiculously bad timing. There's a reason he missed Henrik and hit his own player. That doesn't change the fact he stuck his elbow out in an attempt to hit Henrik.
There's also a difference between raising your arm and sticking out your elbow.
Because it is topical as we had the Leafs' star sniper, a top player in the NHL decide to drop the gloves against an agitator that's still a very good player in his own right.
Did you look down on Kessel droping the gloves (i.e. you felt it was a dumb move) or did you give him props for "manning' up?
I give kudos to Kessel for having the ball to stick up for himself!
Let's get real here. Try raising your arm without your elbow coming out during a hit, unless you're raising it vertically, it's going to come out.. If you're raising your arms vertically during an attempt to hit, you shouldn't be in the NHL. Also, he didn't even elbow Kadri. Kadri was further to the right than Sedin and Kadri was hit with his arm/forearm. Kadri was not elbowed.
How was that manning up? He took himself off the ice for five minutes, and nothing even happened in the fight - Burrows took him straight to the ground.Because it is topical as we had the Leafs' star sniper, a top player in the NHL decide to drop the gloves against an agitator that's still a very good player in his own right.
Did you look down on Kessel droping the gloves (i.e. you felt it was a dumb move) or did you give him props for "manning' up?
Or paralysis, for that matter.Wow, Torts really needs to talk to the players then, because it's completely stupid of them to draw a penalty by driving their head into the boards and risk injury.
Let's get real here. Try raising your arm without your elbow coming out during a hit, unless you're raising it vertically, it's going to come out.. If you're raising your arms vertically during an attempt to hit, you shouldn't be in the NHL. Also, he didn't even elbow Kadri. Kadri was further to the right than Sedin and Kadri was hit with his arm/forearm. Kadri was not elbowed.
Let's get real here. Try raising your arm without your elbow coming out during a hit, unless you're raising it vertically, it's going to come out.. If you're raising your arms vertically during an attempt to hit, you shouldn't be in the NHL. Also, he didn't even elbow Kadri. Kadri was further to the right than Sedin and Kadri was hit with his arm/forearm. Kadri was not elbowed.
I can't believe people use that Marchand thing as evidence to trash Daniel. Of the 3 people involved, by far the biggest embarrassment is the referee.
How many years have you been following the Canucks? Linden was "trashed" or rather criticized by many Canucks Supporters when he had his moment of being ragdolled by Claude Lemieux during a brawl.
That happened once, and for the rest of his career, Linden didn't let history repeat itself. Hell, in future years, he even went toe to toe with Rob Ray.
VANCOUVER -- Any time Daniel Sedin is going to the penalty box twice in a 48-second span, something is extremely wrong in the world of the Vancouver Canucks.
After making sure to turn the other cheek in the first two games of their series against the Chicago Blackhawks, the Canucks spent a better part of Games 3 and 4 at GM Place losing their discipline and taking ill-advised penalties. It resulted in two lopsided losses and now the Canucks are in a 3-1 series hole heading back to Chicago for a must-win Game 5 Sunday (8 p.m. ET, VERSUS, CBC, RDS).
Sedin took 28 penalty minutes in 63 regular-season games. In the last two playoff games, he's taken three costly minors. The two he took in Game 4 led directly to Chicago goals and put the Canucks in a deficit from which there was no escape.
"I don’t know if I lost my composure," said Sedin, who most definitely lost his composure when he tried to fight Dave Bolland at the start of a Canucks power play in Game 3. "First one, I took (Brent) Seabrook to the net and he fell down. I don’t what happened there.
"The second penalty, I shouldn't put myself in that situation, but my stick is broken and (Kris Versteeg) runs into me. It cost us the game."
Goaltender Roberto Luongo, who got away with a trip of Blackhawks big man Dustin Byfuglien in the first period Friday, was at a loss to explain the change in attitude for the Canucks over the past two games.
"We lost our composure again," Luongo said. "I don’t know why it happened. We were all on the same page before the game started, and I don’t know. One thing led to another, and we lost our composure again."
It's one thing to take a lot of senseless penalties when you're penalty-killing units are getting the job done. But when you're killing power plays at a League-low 65 percent clip, all those penalties become season killers. The Canucks have allowed 17 power-play goals in 48 chances, and seven power-play goals to the Blackhawks in four games.
"Your best penalty kill is discipline," said Ryan Johnson, who was on the ice for three of the Blackhawks' four power-play goals in Game 4. “We wanted them to try and be the better individuals, and us be the better team.
"Right now, we’re just feeding right into their game plan."
The Blackhawks are hardly taking any joy in -- or credit for -- the mental breakdowns with the Canucks.
"Over and over I'm being asked about that, and why they're doing certain things, but that's not really our concern," Blackhawks captain Jonathan Toews said. "Our concern is what they're best players can do in our zone and we don't want to let them do those things. We want to focus on our game."
If the Canucks are to erase this deficit, something needs to change. Personnel? Strategy? Coach Alain Vigneault sounds like he's willing to employ just about any tactic he can.
"At the end of the day, you've got to trust your players are going to do the right thing at the right time, they're going to make the right plays," Vigneault said. "Take the hits for the benefit of their teammates and the fans, you trust they're going to do that.
"Obviously tonight we didn't."
And if they don't start doing that Sunday night, this series could be over.
Sedins tried that in their playoff exits vs the Hawks. And if you remember, people criticised them for lacking composure.
No ... IIRC, I believe it was taking retaliatory penalties. In other words, different circumstances, by not dropping the gloves when you were being used as a punching bag with the game was already decided. Check the time and score of the game when the Daniel Sedin and Marchand incident took place.
How many years have you been following the Canucks? Linden was "trashed" or rather criticized by many Canucks Supporters when he had his moment of being ragdolled by Claude Lemieux during a brawl.
That happened once, and for the rest of his career, Linden didn't let history repeat itself. Hell, in future years, he even went toe to toe with Rob Ray.
How many years have you been following the Canucks? Linden was "trashed" or rather criticized by many Canucks Supporters when he had his moment of being ragdolled by Claude Lemieux during a brawl.
That happened once, and for the rest of his career, Linden didn't let history repeat itself. Hell, in future years, he even went toe to toe with Rob Ray.
I think you missed the point
You don't get it?
The team was named after the Maple Leaf Regiment from World War I.
The regiment is a proper noun, hence, Leafs.
I always saw it as a stand. He showed how much of a complete joke the officiating was in that series. The Bruins got away with absolutely whatever they wanted and the series was handed to them.
Calculated move. Like Gillis calling out the refs before game 7 of the Chicago series. Who knows, maybe if less than half of the team was injured it might have worked.