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[SeawaterOnIce]

Could see them targetting one middle 6 C like Roslovic and PTOing a guy like Nick Bjugstad and bidding their time until a trade opens up.

It would be similar approach to 2024/25.

Reading between the lines, it does seem management doesn't see themselves catching any big fish.

 

[RandV]

It's just my old bias and I have no idea how realistic it is but never mind Barzal I'd love to get Bo Horvat back.

 

[Canucks LB]

Jack Hughes. Surprisingly theres a bunch of Devils fans that think he isnt made for playoff hockey which could be true watching him at 4 nations. I would throw the Devils a massive offer for both, even if its a massive overpay because losing Quinn would be even more disastrous. To this team.

It's not realistic because if they trade jack, they will lose Quinn in a couple years, and luke eventually.

I would literally do any package to get jack hughes

 

[Fatass]

It's not realistic because if they trade jack, they will lose Quinn in a couple years, and luke eventually.

I would literally do any package to get jack hughes

Even with his chronic shoulder problems?
I think we will go after Zegras or some other (sort of) reclamation project.

 

[Canucks LB]

Even with his chronic shoulder problems?
I think we will go after Zegras or some other (sort of) reclamation project.

Yes even with his injuries because it will basically guarantee quinn is going to stay

 

[Fatass]

Yes even with his injuries because it will basically guarantee quinn is going to stay

Quinn Hughes is clearly a generational player. Can a club win a Cup with all three brothers though? The cap allocation for them would be considerable so when the inevitable injuries come it would be impossible to fill those minutes with a suitable replacement. Their cost eats up depth. One is okay, but even two might be too many. Jersey didn’t even get through one round without Jack and Luke.

 

[Canucks LB]

Quinn Hughes is clearly a generational player. Can a club win a Cup with all three brothers though? The cap allocation for them would be considerable so when the inevitable injuries come it would be impossible to fill those minutes with a suitable replacement. Their cost eats up depth. One is okay, but even two might be too many. Jersey didn’t even get through one round without Jack and Luke.

Cap is going up drastically, I think you can win a cup with all 3 players

 

[LemonSauceD]

Could see them targetting one middle 6 C like Roslovic and PTOing a guy like Nick Bjugstad and bidding their time until a trade opens up.

It would be similar approach to 2024/25.

Reading between the lines, it does seem management doesn't see themselves catching any big fish.

that approach was a huge part of why our season went to shit. if they do that then kiss Hughes goodbye and enter rebuild.

 

[Fatass]

Cap is going up drastically, I think you can win a cup with all 3 players

Yes, the cap is going up, but the top guys (of which the three brothers are) will simply get more. The % of cap allocated will be the same. Of course it would be fun to watch all three here, but I don’t think it’s a recipe to win the Cup. It would keep Quinn here though; you’re right on that point.

 

[Canucks LB]

Yes, the cap is going up, but the top guys (of which the three brothers are) will simply get more. The % of cap allocated will be the same. Of course it would be fun to watch all three here, but I don’t think it’s a recipe to win the Cup. It would keep Quinn here though; you’re right on that point.

Team has become more star driven recently, look at Rantanen in dallas for example, Tkachuk in florida, etc.

Teams who make big trades for superstar players to get them over the hump, looks like the new recipe of success.

Vegas was another good example.

Bringing in jack hughes a superstar and keeping quinn your superstar and eventually get luke, even if they take up a crazy amount of cap space, they are good enough to carry a team if healthy into a cup i believe so truly.

 

[AzNightmare]

Quinn Hughes is clearly a generational player. Can a club win a Cup with all three brothers though? The cap allocation for them would be considerable so when the inevitable injuries come it would be impossible to fill those minutes with a suitable replacement. Their cost eats up depth. One is okay, but even two might be too many. Jersey didn’t even get through one round without Jack and Luke.

Edit, I misread. lol

 

[Fatass]

Team has become more stay driven recently, look at Rantanen in dallas for example, Tkachuk in florida, etc.

Teams who make big trades for superstar players to get them over the hump, looks like the new recipe of success.

Vegas was another good example.

Bringing in jack hughes a superstar and keeping quinn your superstar and eventually get luke, even if they take up a crazy amount of cap space, they are good enough to carry a team if healthy into a cup i believe so truly.

Is Jack, because of the chronic shoulder issues, now falling into the distressed asset group?

 

[Canucks LB]

Is Jack, because of the chronic shoulder issues, now falling into the distressed asset group?

Jack alone maybe, but Jack almost likely comes with a package deal with Quinn.
Still gambling on jack is one thing, but getting quinn in the package to stay means more.
ATM it does not matter, Don't see jersey trading jack what so ever

 

[AzNightmare]

On the flip side, NJ trading Jack means they lose Quinn. They will do absolutely everything they can to keep Jack, even if it means literally doing nothing and letting Quinn go over there for free in 2 years.

Canucks have 0 leverage.

 

[Fatass]

Jack alone maybe, but Jack almost likely comes with a package deal with Quinn.
Still gambling on jack is one thing, but getting quinn in the package to stay means more.
ATM it does not matter, Don't see jersey trading jack what so ever

Jack continues to struggle with shoulder issues and Jersey might be looking to move him and get bigger down the middle.

 

[Diablo2020]

that approach was a huge part of why our season went to shit. if they do that then kiss Hughes goodbye and enter rebuild.

This is what I mean by rebuilding by default because this is exactly how I see this offseason playing out.

We're gonna have big plans of Marco Rossi and Ryan McLeod types, end up watching them get swapped for each other AGAIN, and be left picking thru the bargain bin when all is said and done.

Then we will in fact end up doing exactly what the OP your responding to suggested, Roslovic was always our #1 target yada yada, Bjugstad placeholds yada yada, searching for a top 6 in season yada yada, then the season goes to crap and we end up kissing Hughes goodbye and rebuilding anyways.

Its not gonna be a rebuild by plan.

Its gonna be backing into one in the dark because we thought we were better than we are and we thought we had the pieces other teams want which we dont.

Last time we tried to compete and ending up rebuilding by default we snagged Hughes at 7 and Petey at 5 but fans keep jumping up and down saying it takes 8 years and you need top 2 picks which is horsecrap.

Or the even worse outcome we trade all our future, for Roslovic and Bjugstad types anyways and still end up rebuilding by default, but now without our picks.

Pure desperation will be the calling card of our hunt for forwards, not from any position of strength or asset advantage. That will see us get taken to cleaners or be stuck holding our junk on the sidelines while we watch everyone improve.

 

[JimmyJiveJones]

On the flip side, NJ trading Jack means they lose Quinn. They will do absolutely everything they can to keep Jack, even if it means literally doing nothing and letting Quinn go over there for free in 2 years.

Canucks have 0 leverage.

This is true but they may not even want to have 3 Hughes on the team. Some Devils fans have already kinda soured on Jack by his injury history plus they dont think he will be a playoff performer given his small frame. And i read they think Luke will be injury prone like Jack. Which kinda scares me too. Id rather the Canucks swing for the fences and hopefully everything pans out. If it doesnt then well, atleast we tried. I dont even wanna see Quinn leave and we have to endure another rebuild because imo a rebuild doesnt always guarantee success.

 

[AzNightmare]

This is true but they may not even want to have 3 Hughes on the team. Some Devils fans have already kinda soured on Jack by his injury history plus they dont think he will be a playoff performer given his small frame. And i read they think Luke will be injury prone like Jack. Which kinda scares me too. Id rather the Canucks swing for the fences and hopefully everything pans out. If it doesnt then well, atleast we tried. I dont even wanna see Quinn leave and we have to endure another rebuild because imo a rebuild doesnt always guarantee success.

While I agree the Canucks' best shot is to get Jack and hope he stays healthy if this it he hypothetical route, Canucks still dont have a lot of leverage. Jack's NTC doesn't kick in yet. Unless NJD is trying to do Jack a favour, Canucks don't have to be their trade partner. The situation isn't the same for the Canucks who need NJD to be their trade partner.

 

[VanJack]

Really, about the only hope the Canucks have is using their depth in blueline prospects to acquire a young, up-and-coming prospect center and hope he can evolve into a legit No. 2.

Right now, whoever is out there is either too old, too expensive, or their production gives you no confidence they'd be able to step up into the role of a legitimate No. 2 scoring center.

Frankly I don't see anyone who'd be much of an improvement on the guys they already have--Chytil and Raty.

 

[Diablo2020]

Really, about the only hope the Canucks have is using their depth in blueline prospects to acquire a young, up-and-coming prospect center and hope he can evolve into a legit No. 2.

Right now, whoever is out there is either too old, too expensive, or their production gives you no confidence they'd be able to step up into the role of a legitimate No. 2 scoring center.

Frankly I don't see anyone who'd be much of an improvement on the guys they already have--Chytil and Raty.

Its a big league so you never know who is actually available but yeah I agree and I type this as Jack Roslovic snipes one on the PP to give the Canes a 2-0 lead.

Like he is the only realistic UFA to be available to us and I cant see a single reason other than a 6,000,000 overpay that he'd want to even come here.

Going back in time a month, it absolutely baffled me there was serious conversations (from the fanbase that just lived thru Ferland and Poolman I might add) of buying out Chytil to use his capspace and roster spot elsewhere! Amazing.