German football season 2023/24

[cgf]

Well we certainly looked like a 2nd division team, that might have been the worst half we've played all season. If we can't raise our level we won't just be in the relegation playoff, we'll lose whether it's Dusseldorf or Hamburg.

 

[cgf]

Strong response in the 2nd half but couldn't quite turn it around. If we can play with the focus & urgency of that 2nd half, I'll feel a lot better about staying up...hopefully Mainz being without Amiri & Gruda is enough to keep them behind us :-/

 

[JoVel]

Marmoush with a hilariously bad attempt when being 1 on 1 with Hradecky, and Schick scores the other way soon after. 2-1 Leverkusen at half time.

 

[JoVel]

Frimpong puts the dagger in to make it 4-1 with a little over 10 minutes left. Probably Leverkusen's toughest game remaining done.

 

[Jack Straw]

And Boniface twists the dagger to make it 5-1.

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

Nobody seems to want that #7 (and...ECL?) spot. Maybe Heidenheim wants it?

 

[Albatros]

Union at least temporarily heading towards relegation as Mainz scores against Heidenheim.

 

[gary69]

Frimpong puts the dagger in to make it 4-1 with a little over 10 minutes left. Probably Leverkusen's toughest game remaining done.

First time Leverkusen won at Frankfurt since 2017, so they even got one over their bogey team. Didn't even ned Wirtz at all.

Union at least temporarily heading towards relegation as Mainz scores against Heidenheim.

That Burkhardt one-touch side footed goal was nice.

 

[Bon Esprit]

Darmstadt going down is official. Köln is next. Their last minute goal at Mainz won't help them.

Done (almost). Next step: Poldi comes back from Poland to get them promotion.

 

[gary69]

Kleindienst makes it 1-1, so Mainz are still in danger as it stands.

 

[cgf]

That Burkhardt one-touch side footed goal was nice.

Watching the NBA right now, but glad to read that. Burkardt's really been in good form to finish this season...5 goals + 2 assists in his last 7 before today's game.

He was out for a long time, but he has some real young Müller/Brandt vibes to his game.

 

[gary69]

Muller just made a good one handed save, tipping the ball away from Burkhardt's feet, when he was through all alone agaisnt keeper and trying to go around him.

Until that moment, Heidenheim had looked more threating to score in the 2nd half, for example hitting the post.

Edit: Heidenheim also hit the bar at the last minute, but it ended 1-1.

 

[Power Man]

Eintracht got destroyed but at least Chaibi got a nice assist lol

 

[cgf]

While the top 5 are locked in and Frankfurt just 1pt away from securing 6th, things are still super tight in battle for the final two European places (assuming Leverkusen wins the Pokal).

7. Freiburg - 41pts (-12 GD); H Heidenheim, A Union

8. Hoffenheim - 40pts (-8 GD); A Darmstadt, H Bayern

9. Augsburg - 39pts (-8 GD); H Stuttgart, A Leverkusen
10. Heidenheim - 38pts (-8 GD); A Freiburg, H Köln
11. Werder - 38pts (-9 GD); A Leipzig, H Bochum
12. Wolfsburg - 37pts (-11 GD); A Bayern, H Mainz


...and the relegation race

13. Gladbach - 33pts (-7 GD); H Frankfurt, A Stuttgart
14. Bochum - 33pts (-24 GD); H Leverkusen, A Werder
15. Union - 30pts (-25 GD); A Köln, H Freiburg

16. Mainz - 29pts (-17 GD); H Dortmund, A Wolfsburg

17. Köln - 24pts (-30 GD); H Union, A Heidenheim

 

[Lambo]

Meanwhile! German football is also making history in the lower leagues. Holstein Kiel is moving closer to promotion after the 1-0 win in Wiesbaden. It would be the first club from Schleswig-Holstein in the Bundesliga. In the 3rd league, SSV Ulm 46 marched through to the 2nd league as a promoted team. SC Preußen Münster is also on the verge of promotion to the 2nd league. also a third division newcomer. 2 Newcomers march through. Has this ever happened before?

 

[Albatros]

Great also for the previous newcomer-champions Kaiserslautern who are now four points ahead of Wiesbaden and almost clear of the relegation. Schalke is as good as safe as well.

 

[Bon Esprit]

Union Berlin fires their coach (again).

Union zieht die Notbremse und beurlaubt Trainer Bjelica

Der 1. FC Union Berlin hat sich von Trainer Nenad Bjelica getrennt. Die Eisernen reagieren damit auf den Negativlauf der vergangenen Wochen. Für ihn übernimmt U-19-Trainer Marco Grote, zusammen mit Sebastian Bönig und Marie-Louise Eta.

www.kicker.de

 

[gary69]

There was discussion earlier about clubs with extremist supporters, especially in the East, and here's another example from last weekend.

Tough to deal with this, if they take over the supporter base on a larger scale.

Some 155 police officers were injured in clashes with Dynamo Berlin and Energie Cottbus at 4th tier match.

155 German police injured at 4th-tier melee

 

[cgf]

There was discussion earlier about clubs with extremist supporters, especially in the East, and here's another example from last weekend.

Tough to deal with this, if they take over the supporter base on a larger scale.

Some 155 police officers were injured in clashes with Dynamo Berlin and Energie Cottbus at 4th tier match.

155 German police injured at 4th-tier melee

Good thing BFC's old firm have all gotten too old to cause trouble and their current fanbase is nothing like what it used to be...

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

There was discussion earlier about clubs with extremist supporters, especially in the East, and here's another example from last weekend.

Tough to deal with this, if they take over the supporter base on a larger scale.

Some 155 police officers were injured in clashes with Dynamo Berlin and Energie Cottbus at 4th tier match.

155 German police injured at 4th-tier melee

Cottbus is getting promoted, aren't they? Fell like they are one that tends to have issues, iirc.

Edit: Derp, says in the article they are at the top of their group.

 

[cgf]

Cottbus is getting promoted, aren't they? Fell like they are one that tends to have issues, iirc.

Edit: Derp, says in the article they are at the top of their group.

Cottbus & Rostock both have hard-right elements amongst their Ultras...and BFC are well known scumbags.

 

[Bon Esprit]

Cottbus & Rostock both have hard-right elements amongst their Ultras...and BFC are well known scumbags.

Almost the entire ex-GDR (with a few exceptions) are strictly ultra-right (some are ultra-left, tho). Watch the next elections. Bad times ahead. Not only at football.

 

[cgf]

Almost the entire ex-GDR (with a few exceptions) are strictly ultra-right (some are ultra-left, tho). Watch the next elections. Bad times ahead. Not only at football.

The AfD's success* is a lot more complicated. They're going to get plenty votes from people who are disgusted by the kind of thugs that go to football matches to start fights because of the feeling of disaffection that's festered as a result of the east still lagging behind the west and often being treated like a cultural punching bag / backwater.

Don't get me wrong, I hate that it's happening, but the people voting for them aren't all doing it because they go to the Nazi-bar in town & support BFC.


*which might not be as bad as feared given that they've dropped in the latest polls and that last cycle, they were polling much better than they eventually did this far away from the election.

 

[Albatros]

And it's not like far-right football hooligans are categorically in the same corner with the AfD either, many couldn't care less about parliamentary politics of any kind or are active in smaller and even more extreme groups like the III. Weg.

 

[cgf]

Looks like Schalke's safe. A commanding win will take them to 40 pts, leaving them clear of the relegation zone.