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Cover looks much better. Both Kane and Toews looked unbelievably dumb.

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Vashanesh

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I still find it extremely generic, but oh well. It's hard to care about something that I'll only see twice (at the most): buying the game, selling the game.
 

gphr513

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Jumped back into GTA V.

I've never played a game where I can just wander aimlessly for like 2 hours, doing random ****, and not even care that I didn't complete a single mission. :laugh:
 

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What do you think of GTA IV? I surprisingly couldn't get into it much despite the insanely high reviews, which GTA V also got.
 

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What do you think of GTA IV? I surprisingly couldn't get into it much despite the insanely high reviews, which GTA V also got.

4 has a pretty solid story, but it took way too long to get moving for my taste. It's a slow burn. Side note: I also couldn't stand the driving, but that's a nitpick. Overall, a great game that I perfectly understand isn't for everyone.

By comparison, 5 is much more of a roller coaster ride, punctuated with the occasional "drown you in exposition" mission. I really feel like it's Rockstar showing that they've honed their craft, there are so many little touches that make that world seem alive. Every fan of open world games should play it.


I've honestly wondered if 4 is harder for some people (myself included) to enjoy because we can't relate with the character as much. With 5, it's hard for someone to say they don't relate to at least one of the main three, if not multiples.
 

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Yeah, I love the 3 protagonist part of GTA V. Kind of a different flavor, playing with each of them. Keeps it fresh.

And there's just so much in the game. I've had it for a long time, and routinely find new things and places I've never been, or things I've never seen.
 

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Haha, see, this should be a good example to show how much I enjoy the game...

So in GTA V there is a (living, breathing) stock market. There are assassination missions where you kill someone (an important person, like a CEO), to drive down their company's stock down. Then you buy up tons of stock from their competitor company, and get huge profits when that company's stock goes through the roof, after news of the opposing company's CEO's death.

The game just glitched on me after I did one of those missions. I had put ALL of the 3 characters' money into the stocks ($10m, $4m, and $800k), and after the mission, my stock portfolio says I own no stock. Even though my bank statements show me spending all that money on stocks.

I'm sure as hell not going to play GTA with 3 broke characters, so now I'm loading up an old save file from months ago (the most recent "spare" save file I have) to "start over". I was at 54% completion, the save file I'm booting up now is at 31% completion. And I'm not really even that pissed about it :laugh:
 

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Haha, see, this should be a good example to show how much I enjoy the game...

So in GTA V there is a (living, breathing) stock market. There are assassination missions where you kill someone (an important person, like a CEO), to drive down their company's stock down. Then you buy up tons of stock from their competitor company, and get huge profits when that company's stock goes through the roof, after news of the opposing company's CEO's death.

The game just glitched on me after I did one of those missions. I had put ALL of the 3 characters' money into the stocks ($10m, $4m, and $800k), and after the mission, my stock portfolio says I own no stock. Even though my bank statements show me spending all that money on stocks.

I'm sure as hell not going to play GTA with 3 broke characters, so now I'm loading up an old save file from months ago (the most recent "spare" save file I have) to "start over". I was at 54% completion, the save file I'm booting up now is at 31% completion. And I'm not really even that pissed about it :laugh:

Bummer! That's how to do it, though. Everyone gets super rich if you do that for each of those missions.
 

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Finally went back and finished the Witcher. The main storyline was pretty fun at the end. I should have just done it sooner. Next time I will play on the highest difficulty and see what happens when I make different decisions.
 

Vashanesh

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Finally went back and finished the Witcher. The main storyline was pretty fun at the end. I should have just done it sooner. Next time I will play on the highest difficulty and see what happens when I make different decisions.

I have to ask, does it pick up? When I first got it, I had just gotten out of White Orchard and gave up. The pacing is exceptionally slow, and it totally took me out of the game.

I really want to like the game, it seems like it's right up my alley, but the constant back and forth for tiny snippets of useful information really wore me out. I felt like I was on one giant fetch quest, that occasionally had me kill something.
 

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I have to ask, does it pick up? When I first got it, I had just gotten out of White Orchard and gave up. The pacing is exceptionally slow, and it totally took me out of the game.

I really want to like the game, it seems like it's right up my alley, but the constant back and forth for tiny snippets of useful information really wore me out. I felt like I was on one giant fetch quest, that occasionally had me kill something.

I know what you mean. I got pretty burnt out when I finally decided to go to Skellige (the third map). At first I was making sure to go to every question mark on the map and check out every corner of the world. That got really boring and it is not really necessary. Once I had a nice armor set most of the loot you find isn't really gonna do much for you.

I would say it picked up pretty good after white orchard, there are some fun quests in Velen and Novigrad. But I got a bit bored in Skellige. Once I got to around level 24 I should have just quit exploring so much and just went at the main storylines. There were some good secondary missions for sure too. You just have to put up with some lame ones from time to time.

I suggest you try it again, but I can't stress enough. You don't have to go to all the question marks after you get pretty good. They are just pointless and seem more like chore than exploring. At around level 15 you won't even be worried about coins. So unless it looks like a cool region worth exploring don't make it a game where you have to complete everything. That is what I did for a while and it really made the game drag on. The world is soo big, but really repetitive in the monsters and bandits you come across. You don't have to kill them all to still get your character to a high enough level to complete the tasks.
 

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Same kinda thing happened with Dragon Age 3...the area you start in had so many things to do that so many people got bogged down and complained about it being boring when they were never advancing the main story. I'm a huge completionist kind of person so I get lost in some of the side quests but it's almost always a good idea to split it up by advancing the main story.
 

Vashanesh

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I know what you mean. I got pretty burnt out when I finally decided to go to Skellige (the third map). At first I was making sure to go to every question mark on the map and check out every corner of the world. That got really boring and it is not really necessary. Once I had a nice armor set most of the loot you find isn't really gonna do much for you.

I would say it picked up pretty good after white orchard, there are some fun quests in Velen and Novigrad. But I got a bit bored in Skellige. Once I got to around level 24 I should have just quit exploring so much and just went at the main storylines. There were some good secondary missions for sure too. You just have to put up with some lame ones from time to time.

I suggest you try it again, but I can't stress enough. You don't have to go to all the question marks after you get pretty good. They are just pointless and seem more like chore than exploring. At around level 15 you won't even be worried about coins. So unless it looks like a cool region worth exploring don't make it a game where you have to complete everything. That is what I did for a while and it really made the game drag on. The world is soo big, but really repetitive in the monsters and bandits you come across. You don't have to kill them all to still get your character to a high enough level to complete the tasks.

Did you still do the bounty board quests? I absolutely understand ignoring the question marks, there are literally hundreds of them, and most of them are just pointless.

It seemed like the bounty board stuff was the proper "side quest" and the question marks were pure filler more often than not.
 

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Did you still do the bounty board quests? I absolutely understand ignoring the question marks, there are literally hundreds of them, and most of them are just pointless.

It seemed like the bounty board stuff was the proper "side quest" and the question marks were pure filler more often than not.

Yup yup. Go to all the bounty boards. Those are where most good side quests start. Yea those question marks are more of the "if I'm in the area" type things.

I'm a usually a super completionist when playing games like this. I have to go to every corner of one map before I even think about moving to the next area. Had to stop doing that for this game.
 

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Same kinda thing happened with Dragon Age 3...the area you start in had so many things to do that so many people got bogged down and complained about it being boring when they were never advancing the main story. I'm a huge completionist kind of person so I get lost in some of the side quests but it's almost always a good idea to split it up by advancing the main story.

That was my problem. I got too good from doing side quests and exploring that by the time I made it to the last region I was too dominant. I upped my difficulty but it was still a little too easy.
 

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I actually think a lot of games have that problem these days. They try so hard to have this 'massive' world and have so much content, that a lot of the world is uninteresting, or a lot of the side-quests are pointless and pretty boring. I suppose it's better than being light on content, but some games kind of drag at times.
 

Vashanesh

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I actually think a lot of games have that problem these days. They try so hard to have this 'massive' world and have so much content, that a lot of the world is uninteresting, or a lot of the side-quests are pointless and pretty boring. I suppose it's better than being light on content, but some games kind of drag at times.

To be fair to the Witcher, the sidequests we're both deriding are still fully voice acted, and CAN lead to some great scenes. They didn't cheap out just to pad the game time, they just made too many of them to still be interesting after you've done X number of them.

That said, I could've done with about 75% fewer of the question mark quests.
 

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About to start playing The Last of Us remastered. I loved Naughty Dog's work on Uncharted, probably my favorite game series of all time. So hopefully this has some similarities.
 

Vashanesh

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About to start playing The Last of Us remastered. I loved Naughty Dog's work on Uncharted, probably my favorite game series of all time. So hopefully this has some similarities.

It very broadly feels the same (I'm pretty sure it's done in the same game engine), but that's largely where the similarities stop.

It's a crushingly dark story with tough-but-mostly-fair stealth combat. Great game, regardless.
 
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