OT: General OT Thread #44 - Hat Talk 2025

[Soldier13Fox]

I will say though, if the Orange Man discloses aliens.... I'll cheer him on. Lol

It would probably be calamity for the world in general and perhaps even a psyop (see project blue beam), but at least i could yell at friends and family "see, I told you!'

That would be fun.

 

[TaLoN]

Ok,I get the frustration, but we cant talk politics. Let's move on.

 

[Soldier13Fox]

Ok,I get the frustration, but we cant talk politics. Let's move on.

Ok, fair. Sorry TaLoN,. Can we talk aliens and disclosure though?

 

[TaLoN]

Ok, fair. Sorry TaLoN,. Can we talk aliens and disclosure though?

Yes, aliens are fair game.

 

[57special]

We were promised a lot.

Nevermind. Doesnt matter. Long (likely breaking the rules) story short. We didnt have any good options this year. All candidates sucked and I have a special disgust with Walz from when he was my boss in the guard. Doesnt matter. Gonna be a long 4 years i think. Rest of the world probably laughing their ass off at us.

Was puzzled for a moment....

 

[Waiver Draft]

 

[Minnewildsota]

 

[57special]

More detailed, and accurate info on CBC. https://www.cbc.ca/news

Amazing that a plane can flip over, and with no deaths. Wonderful news.

I did not like how the report above was not so subtly casting aspersions on the aircraft - "yet another American made plane"- before any facts were in.

 

[MuckOG]

More detailed, and accurate info on CBC. https://www.cbc.ca/news

Amazing that a plane can flip over, and with no deaths. Wonderful news.

I did not like how the report above was not so subtly casting aspersions on the aircraft - "yet another American made plane"- before any facts were in.

To my untrained eye, it looks like the landing gear just collapsed on landing....like it wasn't fully extended before touching down. I'm interested to hear what the official cause was.

 

[57special]

To my untrained eye, it looks like the landing gear just collapsed on landing....like it wasn't fully extended before touching down. I'm interested to hear what the official cause was.

I'm amazed that it even happened, and that more passengers won't hurt. Sounds like only two serious injuries.

 

[Prior]

Fly a lot for work. Sitting at the DFW airport as I read this actually. The current state of travel is awful. Truly herding cattle into tin tubes.

• Overwhelming the TSA is largely a measure to balance traffic throughout terminals and less about “security.” Doesn’t stop the certain element of people from letting any bit of “power” go to their head though.
• Concourses were designed to transport people from one area to the next but did not factor in 3/4 of the passengers at each gate to be in the way standing in the way on the concourse “waiting” for their boarding party to be called to in turn sit and wait in their seat on a crowded tube with every sickness imaginable contained in said tube.
• People are just the worst. Everyone looks like and just is a slob. Maybe mix in washing your hands, a shower, hand sanitizer, cover your face when you sneeze/cough, and perhaps show up looking like you didn’t just roll out of bed. This is their trip and only they matter, never mind the thousand of people they come in contact with and the several they will inconvenience with their lack of understanding of process or just plain decency.
• Planes are now less about travel and more about how we stuff as many of these idiots together in this thing as we can, as quickly as we can, while keeping as much cost as they can down. Crews are pushed close to their max hours to the point of more than reasonable delays require the airlines to swap them out. Planes are turned quickly from a mechanical perspective as any downed is all lost revenue.
• Airlines and travel services put together connecting packages that are just not feasible at different times of the year and they leave all the front facing individuals (and entry level paid) to deal with upset Karen’s of the world. Meanwhile impacting everyone else just so these idiots can get what they want and not be expected to plan like other reasonable adults.

Rant over, for now.

 

[TaLoN]

To my untrained eye, it looks like the landing gear just collapsed on landing....like it wasn't fully extended before touching down. I'm interested to hear what the official cause was.

Came down too hard for the landing gear, cross winds may have been a factor. Obviously very early and more is likely to be discovered as contributing factors.

 

[57special]

Came down too hard for the landing gear, cross winds may have been a factor. Obviously very early and more is likely to be discovered as contributing factors.

They were speculating w/o any hard facts, at all. Kinda worthless, IMO. It was not snowing at the time of the crash, yet they showed some random phone video of swirling snow of some random non airport location(Toronto?) at some random time on some random day.

It's not like the Toronto airport are strangers to snow.

As to cross winds, the so called "expert" they talked to said the aircraft in question couldn't handle the 'up to" 35 knots, as the plane was was designed for only 28 knots. If true, why weren't other planes facing similar difficulties? Toronto is a very busy airport, and there would be a lot of similar landings going on all day.

 

[TaLoN]

They were speculating w/o any hard facts, at all. Kinda worthless, IMO. It was not snowing at the time of the crash, yet they showed some random phone video of swirling snow of some random non airport location(Toronto?) at some random time on some random day.

It's not like the Toronto airport are strangers to snow.

As to cross winds, the so called "expert" they talked to said the aircraft in question couldn't handle the 'up to" 35 knots, as the plane was was designed for only 28 knots. If true, why weren't other planes facing similar difficulties? Toronto is a very busy airport, and there would be a lot of similar landings going on all day.

The snow they were referring to, they said helped prevent the fire from burning the plane up completely. Nobody said anything about snow being a factor in the cause, just a factor in preventing the crash from being worse, as the recent snowfall resulted in snow getting kicked up as the plane tumbled, helping prevent fire spread.

Also, they aren't the first to talk about the plane coming down hard causing the landing gear to fail. Other experts have said the same. Again, all extremely early and no conclusions have been made, but these are some of the suspects to be investigated. aka starting points to look at.

 

[Minnewildsota]

Yall see what's going on in Detroit?
Main waterline burst, flooded and froze. There's some places where vehicles are 1/2 frozen under "water"

Floods and frozen cars: Photos show aftermath of water main break in Detroit

On Monday, a 54-inch steel transmission line built in the 1930s ruptured in the southeast part of the city.

www.usatoday.com

 

[MuckOG]

The snow they were referring to, they said helped prevent the fire from burning the plane up completely. Nobody said anything about snow being a factor in the cause, just a factor in preventing the crash from being worse, as the recent snowfall resulted in snow getting kicked up as the plane tumbled, helping prevent fire spread.

Also, they aren't the first to talk about the plane coming down hard causing the landing gear to fail. Other experts have said the same. Again, all extremely early and no conclusions have been made, but these are some of the suspects to be investigated. aka starting points to look at.

I suppose its reasonable to assume that the landing gear could collapse if the landing was hard enough, but from I could see in the video, it didn't look like the landing was extremely hard...I would think that they would design the gear to absorb a somewhat hard landing.

 

[Saga of the Elk]

Yall see what's going on in Detroit?
Main waterline burst, flooded and froze. There's some places where vehicles are 1/2 frozen under "water"

Floods and frozen cars: Photos show aftermath of water main break in Detroit

On Monday, a 54-inch steel transmission line built in the 1930s ruptured in the southeast part of the city.

www.usatoday.com

that's terrible ... here I was about to complain about flying to Toronto next week

our country's decline is rapidly unfolding before us

 

[TaLoN]

I suppose its reasonable to assume that the landing gear could collapse if the landing was hard enough, but from I could see in the video, it didn't look like the landing was extremely hard...I would think that they would design the gear to absorb a somewhat hard landing.

What experts say could have gone wrong with the Toronto Pearson plane crash

It has been three days since Delta Air Lines flight 4819 crashed upon landing at Toronto Pearson Airport on Monday. The Transportation Safety Board (TSB) has repeatedly said it is too early to determine the cause of the crash, however, several aviation experts have offered their theories to CTV...

www.cp24.com

Hard landing and flare issues
In an interview with CP24, former pilot Keith Mackey said the aircraft appeared to descend too rapidly and failed to execute a proper flare, a manoeuvre that allows for a gentler landing.

“The airplane appears to be descending very rapidly and doesn’t flare as you’d expect it to as it approaches the runway, so I think that was what happened with the hard landing,” Mackey later told CTV News Channel. “I think it was just beyond the structural capability of the airplane.”

Looking from afar, it can be hard to judge these things. Speed can be deceptive with such size and distance. We don't have much to compare it to. Experts who deal with this stuff daily are more apt to see what we don't.