Confirmed with Link: Gelinas to COL for a 3rd

[ForeverJerseyGirl]

I think the problem is that people think being a bottom pairing defenseman is a bad thing. Someone has to play on that 3rd pairing.

Nothing wrong with a bottom pairing defenseman, but nothing wrong with trading one for a third round pick, either.

 

[ForeverJerseyGirl]

Does Colorado still play that terrible man-on-man defensive system?

Believe so. I think it's Roy's baby, that system.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Plus the third pairing has to be able to play SOME defense even with protected zone starts. Gely so far hasn't shown it. I just don't see the Avs liking this trade.

 

[PWiz30]

I don't know where to assign blame, but it's an absolute shame they couldn't make things work with Gelinas. He's got so much potential and I genuinely hope he can turn his career around with this change of scenery.

 

[AfroThunder396]

We've had great performances from 3rd pairing defensemen in this franchise's history. Look no further than Tommy Albelein.

But it's moot because he wasn't a 3rd pairing defenseman. The coaching staff didn't trust him because of his abhorrent decision making skill. He's just bad.

 

[Zippy316]

You won't see me disagree with any of this. The question is, why is playing sheltered minutes a negative? That's the role of bottom pairing defensemen.

Sure, you can say that.

However, I would rather my bottom-pairing defender at least be competent enough to go up against better players if need be. Any time Gelinas saw an aggressive forecheck or went up against better players, he seemed to always make mistakes.

Regardless, the root of my problems with Gelinas is that any time a difficult defensive situation occurred, he always struggled and rarely ever made a good play. As a defender, that really scares me. I didn't see anything over the last three years to think he would be able to improve that part of his game.

 

[Bleedred]

I think his fate was sealed when Schlemko was signed, it was obvious he'd be the odd man out.

But in the past, he was producing a lot of offense. Even though he was terrible at playing defense.

This year, he stopped producing offense and might have arguably looked the worst he has defensively.

It seems he gets worse defensively every year, even though he'll go through a couple weeks where he looks good or competent at least. He also got pushed around too much, even by little guys out there. Such a big and impressive physique, yet he got shoved around by little scrawny mother****ers all the time. It was so frustrating.

I will miss his offense, but we haven't seen a lot of it since his rookie year in 13-14. I think Pete was wrong to scratch him a lot that year, when we needed offense. He was hot that year too, produced a half a point per game. But then the offense dried up. He was still given a hell of a lot more chances by Hynes than Matteau was.

 

[tr83]

I won't be needing this anymore

 

[Bleedred]

He also didn't have much of a brain.

If there was ever anyone that was more in need of one than that scarecrow from the wizard of oz.

 

[ForeverJerseyGirl]

I won't be needing this anymore

Could donate it to Colorado to put their new puppy in.

 

[RSeen]

Gelinas is not a 3rd pairing guy, at least not a competent one. He belongs in the minors, Shero robbed the Avs.

 

[NJDevils#4]

Cannon of a shot and honestly, not much more. I'll take a 3rd all day on this one.

 

[thethinglonger]

Believe so. I think it's Roy's baby, that system.

Interesting, I thought I read somewhere that the Avs started using a 1-3-1 system (I think it was from Friedman's 30 Thoughts...I'll have to find it)

 

[MadDevil]

Interesting, I thought I read somewhere that the Avs started using a 1-3-1 system (I think it was from Friedman's 30 Thoughts...I'll have to find it)

You must be mistaken. Only the Devils play a boring defensive system.

 

[Emperoreddy]

I don't know where to assign blame, but it's an absolute shame they couldn't make things work with Gelinas. He's got so much potential and I genuinely hope he can turn his career around with this change of scenery.

He really doesn't. He has some good physical tools, but every indication is he completely lacks the hockey sense to be a proper NHL player.

His positioning was constantly bad. He decision making was bad. Basically everything that involved thinking or understanding your position he was bad at.

 

[Bleedred]

I think he'll need to start producing at offense like he did in 13-14, if he wants to make it in the league. Or at least at a much better rate than he was averaging the last two years.

There's plenty of bad defensive defensemen that produce a lot of offense, he just produced hardly anything anymore.

 

[njdevils1982]

the back door…keep your head on a swivel …..know where the opponents are

 

[OmNomNom]

avs fans have already turned on him.

 

[Desert Devil]

Maybe it's just me, but his shot seemed to get more wild and inaccurate with every shot he took.

 

[njdevils1982]

avs fans have already turned on him.

10:58 +1 zero PP time

 

[OmNomNom]

10:58 +1 zero PP time

stats don't say much. read their GDT, they threw him on a higher pairing due to bad chemistry of other pairs, and all their fans were complaining about were his reaction time and speed. i'm sure the +1 is situational. someone had mentioned that he had to get bailed out.

 

[njdevils1982]

stats don't say much. read their GDT, they threw him on a higher pairing due to bad chemistry of other pairs, and all their fans were complaining about were his reaction time and speed. i'm sure the +1 is situational. someone had mentioned that he had to get bailed out.

i didnt watch the game….just reading the boxscore for ***** and giggles….and ya, obviousy it doesnt tell the whole story


sucks that theyre not happy…….oh well, they still have their cup chaser iginla to fawn over

 

[Devils Army]

The thing about Gelinas is that he isn't really and offensive defensemen either, he is just classified that way because of his gsot and lack of defense, he just isn't that good of a hockey player, and a 3rd for him is pretty good value

 

[njdevils1982]

The thing about Gelinas is that he isn't really and offensive defensemen either, he is just classified that way because of his gsot and lack of defense, he just isn't that good of a hockey player, and a 3rd for him is pretty good value

see post 67

 

[OmNomNom]

in other news, they weren't impressed w boedker either, so whoever called it (that boedker really isn't impressive, especially statistically), nice job.

tho, 1 game sample size haha