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It was, but they could have ended Cody's title run with a much better finish.

Dude won in one of the craziest moments ever, and they take the title off him in a wet fart of a finish.

I agree but the CenawinsLOL meme shouldn't apply there, it's not like Cena hit his 5 moves of doom and covered Cody. There was also rational for Cena winning this.
 
I agree but the CenawinsLOL meme shouldn't apply there, it's not like Cena hit his 5 moves of doom and covered Cody. There was also rational for Cena winning this.

Oh the Cena wins absolutely doesnt apply. Cena 100% was the correct winner.

It's a big reason why despite how bad the match was, it's not anywhere near the worst Mania main event match or finish.

For modern Mania's. Roman vs HHH, Roman vs Taker, and Roman vs Brock at 34 were all way worse.

And for all time. Hogan at both Mania 8 and Mania 9 were way more putrid then this.
 
Not a bad show overall. I liked the somewhat scaling back of the production compared to more recent years. Netflix has worked out for them much better than I expected. I see kids into it now. I have friends in real life who have been watching now. Not a bad time to remind the audience of the basics this year.
It felt almost like a retro WrestleMania to me.

Matches of the night(s) for me were Punk/Rollins/Reigns and Sky/Ripley/Belair. I also liked the 4-way, Gable/Fenix and Knight/Fatu. Good standard sports entertainment matches. I can understand why that would be underwhelming to others though.
 
Cody Rhodes is boring, his big fake ass teeth annoy me but Cena who lost to jobber Auston Theory beats Rhodes who took out Reigns…..

Im just a casual fan though but found it all underwhelming, often predictable and more sloppy in ring show then normal
 
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Having followed, but not watched a lot since their move to Netflix, tonight felt like them crossing the rubicon in a way that's not good for the business.

Corporate/celebrity influence has always sorta been a thing within WWE, but over the last year or so it's slowly gotten worse. First it started with sponsors on the ring mat, then it slowly found its way into more and more spots. Bringing influencers in that a vast majority of the fanbase couldn't give a shit about, more hamfisted shit like that totally not at all forced Doom: The Dark Ages ad in the form of Drew's entrance, more forced ad reads/placement.

They tried to use Travis Scott to elevate that ending but all he did is put the focus on him and completely kill what little heat a match that was very much not great had. Compare that to something like bringing in Mike Tyson and actually using him a way that made Austin look better, bleh. That's easily a top 3 worst WM finish next to 9, and probably 16.

Triple H's rhetoric leading up to this weekend becoming a bit more anti-IWC also gave me a bad feeling.

"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss"

Edit: Rock can go f*** himself too. Build this up as Cena selling his soul to you and your selfish ass can't be bothered to show up tonight, or for anything else.
 
It’s not the fanbase they’re concerned about when it comes to the influencers. It’s the followers of the influencers.
 
Having followed, but not watched a lot since their move to Netflix, tonight felt like them crossing the rubicon in a way that's not good for the business.

Corporate/celebrity influence has always sorta been a thing within WWE, but over the last year or so it's slowly gotten worse. First it started with sponsors on the ring mat, then it slowly found its way into more and more spots. Bringing influencers in that a vast majority of the fanbase couldn't give a shit about, more hamfisted shit like that totally not at all forced Doom: The Dark Ages ad in the form of Drew's entrance, more forced ad reads/placement.

They tried to use Travis Scott to elevate that ending but all he did is put the focus on him and completely kill what little heat a match that was very much not great had. Compare that to something like bringing in Mike Tyson and actually using him a way that made Austin look better, bleh. That's easily a top 3 worst WM finish next to 9, and probably 16.

Triple H's rhetoric leading up to this weekend becoming a bit more anti-IWC also gave me a bad feeling.

"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss"

Edit: Rock can go f*** himself too. Build this up as Cena selling his soul to you and your selfish ass can't be bothered to show up tonight, or for anything else.
What kills me is how tone deaf they are. In the 90s Tyson coming in had people legit worried he would KO someone.

Travis Scott looks like he's 130 pounds soaking wet and writes music for a living. There is absolutely NOTHING intimidating about him. At least with Bad Bunny he balled out and earned respect through a street fight against Preist. Tf has Travis Scott done besides walk to the ring slower than The Undertaker while holding a fake belt?

If there was ANY logic to this match - and yes I know pro wrestling is carny but logic can still apply - Cody should have laughed at Travis Scott being there then turned his attention to Cena again. That's the equivalent of a little kid coming to the ring.

Cena winning was probably the correct decision but they could have went about it in countless different ways. Have Rollins cost Cody, have McIntyre cost him then demand to face Cena the next night, f***ing have Solo come out and say "I DID IT FOR DA ROCK", anything other than what they did.
 
What kills me is how tone deaf they are. In the 90s Tyson coming in had people legit worried he would KO someone.

Travis Scott looks like he's 130 pounds soaking wet and writes music for a living. There is absolutely NOTHING intimidating about him. At least with Bad Bunny he balled out and earned respect through a street fight against Preist. Tf has Travis Scott done besides walk to the ring slower than The Undertaker while holding a fake belt?

If there was ANY logic to this match - and yes I know pro wrestling is carny but logic can still apply - Cody should have laughed at Travis Scott being there then turned his attention to Cena again. That's the equivalent of a little kid coming to the ring.

Cena winning was probably the correct decision but they could have went about it in countless different ways. Have Rollins cost Cody, have McIntyre cost him then demand to face Cena the next night, f***ing have Solo come out and say "I DID IT FOR DA ROCK", anything other than what they did.
The decision was fine. Cody was starting to run out of runway as champion and giving Cena one last run as a bucket list thing to give him an excuse to face old rivals is honestly fine..

The way they got there is amongst some of the worst booking ever imo.
 
Not a bad show overall. I liked the somewhat scaling back of the production compared to more recent years. Netflix has worked out for them much better than I expected. I see kids into it now. I have friends in real life who have been watching now. Not a bad time to remind the audience of the basics this year.
It felt almost like a retro WrestleMania to me.

Matches of the night(s) for me were Punk/Rollins/Reigns and Sky/Ripley/Belair. I also liked the 4-way, Gable/Fenix and Knight/Fatu. Good standard sports entertainment matches. I can understand why that would be underwhelming to others though.
Chad Gable didn't have a match at Mania.
 
Way way behind, so I'm not reading the thread, just starting Night 1 now... Alicia Taylor getting to sow more personality out of the gate tonight is nice, her yeeting and then fist bumping Jet during his into was a nice touch.
 
Cody Rhodes is boring, his big fake ass teeth annoy me but Cena who lost to jobber Auston Theory beats Rhodes who took out Reigns…..

Im just a casual fan though but found it all underwhelming, often predictable and more sloppy in ring show then normal
He didn't win clean, though. Literally all the dirty tatics of a cheap heel win: ref knocked out cold when the babyface had the pin, low blow, outside interference, a exposed beltbuckle and a championship belt to the face.
 
Opener was fantastic. Those three proved why they are three of the best wrestlers in the world. Io is the current GOAT.

Drew and Priest was a lot of fun. Priest got the best entrance of the night.

The IC title match was also a lot of fun. Obviously they built it to be a big showcase for Bron who had all the best big spots. But Dirty Dom stole the show along with the W. Dom might have gotten the biggest reactions of anyone the entire weekend.

AJ vs Paul was a whole lot of nothing. Pretty boring match.

Orton vs Hendry was a good bit of quick fun. What a reaction for Hendry. Dude legit memed himself to Mania, and he got his own Mania merch now.

Women's tag was a TV match that happened to have a Becky return.

Main event sucked. Crowd wasn't into the alignment they were trying to sell. Match was slow and never got out of first gear. An absolutely awful interference spot and a wet fart of a finish.

Overall between both nights if you toss out all the clunkers you only have enough good matches to fill a short one night card.

Both shows also was missing that extra bit of pagentry that makes Mania special. Very few special entrances. Not a lot of really big moments.

Probably worst Mania since the pirate ship one
My biggest gripe is Wrestlemania used to be where they settled feuds. This just feels like a show where they started a bunch of them instead.
 
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Guessing it’s Cena and Travis Scott vs. Cody and Orton at some point. Maybe money in the bank
 
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