Laval Rocket: GDT- Game THREE Laval at Charlotte 4PM EST

[DAChampion]

Fowler should start next game.

Mesar should start next game.

Beck should be a center next game.

 

[HabsAddict]

True if you look at how our big club got destroyed by Florida for 2 plus seasons before we found a way and a belief and then swept them. You have to play against the best to learn how to beat the best.

A little while ago I wrote about history I know very well. REAL history, not internet lore.

I was born in Sparti Greece and I know my forefathers history very well. They were not a huge population but they dominated militarily. As much as they dominated militarily, they did not want to fight too often because they assumed correctly that the more they fought, the more their opponents learned from them. And it became true. They were wiped out militarily and never recovered.

Also in my pro career, I was very fortunate to be thrown into the deep end of manufacturing management and learned hands on, the hard way how to handle large group of people. Form 20 to 350 to 14,000 at the end of my career. There is no manual to do that, you learn...the hard way.

So that is why I am a big proponent of "push them to the next level". Of course it has to be within reason. 16 year olds are not going to step into the NHL, but as we see today, if we had tougher opposition through the year, I doubt we would see these result...

 

[rahad]

This cannot be stressed enough.

Who were the forwards close a PPG in the AHL (my requirement for making the jump in the top 6)?
Laval is just a copy of the Habs with extreme lack of talent up front.
Apart from Reinbacher (and even then, questions persist regarding his durability) is a sure NHLer. Other prospects are long shot.

That's why I am shaking my head with people saying we need to trade both 1st, rebuild is over, blah blah.
Our prospect pool is nowhere near as good as we think.

100%%%%

One single miracle playoff appearance and the rebuild is already over.

 

[montreal]

 

[expy]

Just saw that rebound Primeau gave up from the other side of center ice...

Guy is finished.

 

[Kimota]

This cannot be stressed enough.

Who were the forwards close a PPG in the AHL (my requirement for making the jump in the top 6)?
Laval is just a copy of the Habs with extreme lack of talent up front.
Apart from Reinbacher (and even then, questions persist regarding his durability) is a sure NHLer. Other prospects are long shot.

That's why I am shaking my head with people saying we need to trade both 1st, rebuild is over, blah blah.
Our prospect pool is nowhere near as good as we think.

I would only trade our two first for the Top 5 at the draft.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

Winning and development are not competing priorities, #FreeFowler

 

[Kimota]

I say send Dobes down.

 

[le_sean]

Good thing they keep going to Primeau who is not a part of the future. Really smart Pascal

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

Ridiculous as usual. It is the AHL liifers on the Rocket that are shit.

It's always someone else's fault.

 

[Goldenhands]

This cannot be stressed enough.

Who were the forwards close a PPG in the AHL (my requirement for making the jump in the top 6)?
Laval is just a copy of the Habs with extreme lack of talent up front.
Apart from Reinbacher (and even then, questions persist regarding his durability) is a sure NHLer. Other prospects are long shot.

That's why I am shaking my head with people saying we need to trade both 1st, rebuild is over, blah blah.
Our prospect pool is nowhere near as good as we think.

First, its the management that said they will look at improving the team, that they dont want to waste Suzuki's best years ect. They also didnt sell at the deadline and we made the playoffs, so of course, the expectations will be higher from fans and medias.

Secondly, what we really lack is a young talented 2C, otherwise, we are in good shape moving foward with Suzuki, Caufield and the best of Slaf, Demidov upcoming. Dach still could have a bounce back year as a winger and Hage will likely play some games with the Habs at the end of next season.

Now can Hage fill that 2C role down the road, next NCAA season will provide more answers, at worst we get another top 6 winger.

Depth players are much easier to get, so moving our 2 first picks this year makes sense only if whats left isnt top 6 foward or top 4 quality D.

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

Most posters that I have read are cautiously optimistic and most have said that most of the current Laval crop will need more AHL time.

I read repeatedly, from numerous posters, that Beck and Kapanen were ready to take the #3C spot. Same thing with Roy a year ago and RHP before him. I even read a few days ago that Mailloux should be in the NHL next year. We always overrate our prospects, when they bust, we never learn, we start hyping the next flavour of the month. I understand it's the nature of HFHabs, it is what it is.

 

[Tyson]

Primeau might not have won a game but he darn sure needed to be better.

I read repeatedly, from numerous posters, that Beck and Kapanen were ready to take the #3C spot. Same thing with Roy a year ago and RHP before him. I even read a few days ago that Mailloux should be in the NHL next year. We always overrate our prospects, when they bust, we never learn, we start hyping the next flavour of the month. I understand it's the nature of HFHabs, it is what it is.

I think some will get games but most will spend 80+% of their season in Laval.

 

[LaP]

Primeau might not have won a game but he darn sure needed to be better.

It's a case of it's not his fault but he did not help at all. He did not keep his team in the game and did not give them a chance to figure things out. You can't give 4+ goals on 20ish shots 3 games in a row no matter how good those shots are it's simply not good enough. A lot of very weird decisions in those playoffs Beck playing on the wing is another big one.

 

[Hins77]

I read repeatedly, from numerous posters, that Beck and Kapanen were ready to take the #3C spot. Same thing with Roy a year ago and RHP before him. I even read a few days ago that Mailloux should be in the NHL next year. We always overrate our prospects, when they bust, we never learn, we start hyping the next flavour of the month. I understand it's the nature of HFHabs, it is what it is.

exactly. I don't inow if we have 2 real impact NHL players in Laval. (reinbacher/Fowler). The rest, is nothing that much impressive. I just hope management won't fall in love on those Kapanen, Beck and cie.

 

[Scotianhab]

exactly. I don't inow if we have 2 real impact NHL players in Laval. (reinbacher/Fowler). The rest, is nothing that much impressive. I just hope management won't fall in love on those Kapanen, Beck and cie.

Do ppl not think Beck & Kapanen will improve over the next 2 years? Jesus there is a reason the entry contracts are 3 years long before waivers.

 

[Hins77]

Do ppl not think Beck & Kapanen will improve over the next 2 years? Jesus there is a reason the entry contracts are 3 years long before waivers.

If we can get a top 6 forward of top 4 dman including those ahler guy. This is a no brainer.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

What a deception. Rockets are beaten by a large margin and watching games lose interest when they are down by 3 goals or more. The only interest is if prospects like Rein, Bect, Flo, Maill and Fowler are getting better. Habs lack size, sandpaper and talent and the same applies for the Rockets. Dooh!

 

[Kennerback]

It's a case of it's not his fault but he did not help at all. He did not keep his team in the game and did not give them a chance to figure things out. You can't give 4+ goals on 20ish shots 3 games in a row no matter how good those shots are it's simply not good enough. A lot of very weird decisions in those playoffs Beck playing on the wing is another big one.

There's just no justification for 13 goals on 52 shots in a series. It can't just be Charlotte being so good thus having this historic shooting percentage. He's doing something wrong.

 

[Erika]

Fowler should start next game.

Mesar should start next game.

Beck should be a center next game.

Agreed !
Also, healthy scratch scrubs like Simonneau and Gignac. They are completely useless.
Then give 20 mins+ ice time to Kapanen, Beck, Xhekaj and Roy.

If they lose, they lose... but at least the kids will get the development time for that experience next year.

 

[Erika]

Yeah let's write off Beck after one AHL season...makes sense

It makes sense if you can use him to acquire other assets you need. It's called being proactive and making hockey decisions.

What I'm trying to say is that I don't see much potential in Beck. It's an opinion like any other person here.

Yes, he might makes it as a 4th line center in the NHL, but those kind of players are flooding everywhere in the NHL. They can easily be obtained via trades with late draft picks or via the free agents market.

If Hughes/Gorton decides to package him in a deal for a top 6 player, I won't be losing any sleeps over that for sure.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

It's always someone else's fault.

Obviously no one should expect rookies to thrive against an entire team of failed NHLers,

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Primeau is straight booty cheeks

 

[Erika]

Obviously no one should expect rookies to thrive against an entire team of failed NHLers,

Come on... before this series, many fans thought that Laval was going to win in 4 or 5 games and for good reasons.

That team of failed NHLers still beat the crap out of them... What makes them now ?
What are they even good at if they can't win a single game vs a team full of AHL scrubs ?!
Something or someone should be held accountable for this catastrophy...

• The Rocket prospects that eveyone said was unreal are not as good as we thought ?
• Pascal Vincent being a tool and getting outcoached by the opposition's coach ?
• The collapse of the so called super goalies tendem of Primeau (supposedly the best goalie in the AHL) and Fowler ?!
• The defense that suddenly can't defend anymore ?!
• The players are too small and too soft ?!
• Lucky bounces ?!

Hopefully Hughes/Gorton are watching this failure closely.

 

[ahmedou]