GDT: GDT #38 New York Islanders vs Toronto Maple Leafs | January 2nd | 7:30 PM | F/2-1 L

beach

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We're closer now than we've been all season.

28th overall.
29th in the league in goals for
24th in the league in goals allowed
Historically bad PP and PK

Nobody here can tell me we don't have a great chance at winding up dead last in the league.
Melt down for Misa. I'm here for it.
 
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Rehabguy

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Yes, let’s get our facts straight. This seems to be a common (incorrect) theme. Lou added Duclair, Tsyp, broke up the identity line (though probably should have signed clutter instead of Martin, or signing neither would probably have been better), signed Reilly (unforeseen medical issue kept him out).

Every team makes adjustments every year. To say NOTHING ad nauseam is literally not true. If you want to argue almost nothing, then maybe. And you can argue the moves are good or bad, certainly. But the nothing narrative is false and tiresome.
Nothing of any consequence. Tsyplakov chose the Island and Shane Prince had more to do with that than Lou. Duclair got the call from Roy. Reilly was already on the squad last year. Where was Lou? Doing nothing. He signed Martin as a desperation move well into the season.
 
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Torrey Redux

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Now hold on a second there! Hold ON!!! If my memory serves me correctly he took a team that was out of a playoff picture last year and in 37 games turned the ship around and got this team in. Also he improved 5 on 5 play GAA for EVERY single damn player on the team. Let’s get that straight. This year he dealt with injury after injury with a roster that we can all agree is too old and not fit for a modern uptempo aggressive system and Roy called Lou out on this early.

And let’s get our facts straight in regards to this roster. After Roy’s incredible late season run last year Lou had all summer to address some of the weaknesses I’m sure Roy pointed out to him after last season. I’m sure he said this is what I need to make this work. What did Lou do last summer?

NOTHING

That is why Roy called him out early THIS season because none of his concerns were addressed. That is not Roy’s fault and he has every right to call out his boss if he is not given the tools to get the job done. If the team needs to tank let it tank but Roy’s going nowhere. I can guarantee it.
Injuries; yawn. Everybody deals with them and since those injured players have returned, we're no better.

The "incredible late season run"; that same team that won the war of attrition in the East last year, Roy can't seem to do anything with them this year. Where is all of that coaching incredibleness now?

The "NOTHING"; unless Roy lives in a cave he had to know about the Isles lack of assets and bad contracts that made, and continue to make, beneficial moves pretty much impossible. Beneficial in the sense of helping this team be better now. I am in no way defending Lou, but again, Roy is responsible for the decisions he makes. He took the job and takes the paychecks. Stop whining, because the whole world knew about the Isles situation.

Finally, in the real world, nobody should call out their boss publicly. It's just a stupid thing to do.
 
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MJF

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The "incredible late season run"; that same team that won the war of attrition in the East last year, Roy can't seem to do anything with them this year. Where is all of that coaching incredibleness now?
Not true. Roy's doing the exact same thing that he did with them in the playoffs last year. Losing most games by 1 goal.

Hey, we were right there. Just needed a bounce, some puck luck, not grip our sticks so tight. We did some good things at 5 on 5.

Never change Patrick. It's never your fault.
 

Rehabguy

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Injuries; yawn. Everybody deals with them and since those injured players have returned, we're no better.

The "incredible late season run"; that same team that won the war of attrition in the East last year, Roy can't seem to do anything with them this year. Where is all of that coaching incredibleness now?

The "NOTHING"; unless Roy lives in a cave he had to know about the Isles lack of assets and bad contracts that made, and continue to make, beneficial moves pretty much impossible. Beneficial in the sense of helping this team be better now. I am in no way defending Lou, but again, Roy is responsible for the decisions he makes. He took the job and takes the paychecks. Stop whining, because the whole world knew about the Isles situation.

Finally, in the real world, nobody should call out their boss publicly. It's just a stupid thing to do.
Beggars can't be choosers. Roy wears his emotions on his sleeves and that has got him into trouble in the past. He knows this may be his only shot to get his foot in the door back into the NHL so he took it. Of course he knew the situation the Isles were in and of course he knows that Lou is driving the organization into the ground. Also, he knows Lou has a penchant of quickly putting the blame on the coaches he hires so he rightfully and preemptively put the ball back in Lou's court to deflect the inevitable blame that Lou would place on him. And he was super smart to preemptively call out his boss publicly because that was something all the other coaches he fired didn't do.
 

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